Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261967AbVEPXNc (ORCPT ); Mon, 16 May 2005 19:13:32 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261976AbVEPXNc (ORCPT ); Mon, 16 May 2005 19:13:32 -0400 Received: from hermine.aitel.hist.no ([158.38.50.15]:20234 "HELO hermine.aitel.hist.no") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S261967AbVEPXN2 (ORCPT ); Mon, 16 May 2005 19:13:28 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 01:18:39 +0200 To: Denis Vlasenko Cc: mhw@wittsend.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Sync option destroys flash! Message-ID: <20050516231839.GB8032@hh.idb.hist.no> References: <1116001207.5239.38.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200505152200.26432.vda@ilport.com.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200505152200.26432.vda@ilport.com.ua> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: Helge Hafting Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1153 Lines: 30 On Sun, May 15, 2005 at 10:00:26PM +0300, Denis Vlasenko wrote: > > What we really need, is a less thorough version of O_SYNC. > O_SYNC currently guarantees that when syscall returns, data > is on media (or at least in disk drive's internal cache :). > > This is exactly what really paranoid people want. > Journalling labels, all that good stuff. > > But there are many cases where people just want to say > 'write out dirty data asap for this device', so that > I can copy files to floppy, wait till it stops making > noise, and eject a disk. Samr for flash if it has write > indicator (mine has a diode). > I don't really see the need for a new mode. Mount without o_sync, but use the sync command once to get things written out. Or use the umount command before ejecting, it syncs the device before returning. I use umount all the time when using compactflash. The wear is minimal. Helge Hafting - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/