Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261341AbVETXT4 (ORCPT ); Fri, 20 May 2005 19:19:56 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261437AbVETXT4 (ORCPT ); Fri, 20 May 2005 19:19:56 -0400 Received: from mxout.hispeed.ch ([62.2.95.247]:17793 "EHLO smtp.hispeed.ch") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261341AbVETXTx (ORCPT ); Fri, 20 May 2005 19:19:53 -0400 Message-Id: <428E70B3.1050007@khandalf.com> Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 01:20:19 +0200 From: "Brian O'Mahoney" Reply-To: omb@bluewin.ch User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Patrick McFarland CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [OT] Joerg Schilling flames Linux on his Blog References: <200505201345.15584.pmcfarland@downeast.net> In-Reply-To: <200505201345.15584.pmcfarland@downeast.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.2.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Md5-Body: fb18f36500a09e4c50aefc7d155d2404 X-Transmit-Date: Saturday, 21 May 2005 1:20:33 +0200 X-Message-Uid: 0000b49cec9d9b610000000200000000428e70c10004a23d00000001000a387f Replyto: omb@bluewin.ch X-Sender-Postmaster: Postmaster@80-218-57-125.dclient.hispeed.ch. Read-Receipt-To: omb@bluewin.ch X-DCC-spamcheck-02.tornado.cablecom.ch-Metrics: smtp-03.tornado.cablecom.ch 32701; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1380 Lines: 31 I agree that Joerg Schilling should be entirely ignored; cdrecord is hopelessly broken writing DVDs and looking at the code, I am not surprised, it is designed to make you buy the his PRO-DVD product but fortunately Open Source healed itself, in the usual way. Solaris is a hostage to the SUN QA group, which is FAR too powerful, so they argue "keep it out" so vanilla Solaris just sucks, but, within SUN there is an OS tool-chain group which builds useful tools and publishes a DVD and runs a download service, This stuff needs to be pushed into the mainstream. There is NO evidence that SUN management, increasingly PHB, even understands the issue. If I need a Python or Ruby platform do I use sun or Linux on X-arc? This and the failure to see that they must open source Java just indicate how clueless SUN senior leadership now is. The real problem is insecure sys admins, throughout the industry, who resist what developers are trying to do, cos it isnt on the (Solaris) distribution CDs Finally SUN should move from the pkg* abortion, written by idiots at AT&T, some 25 years ago to RPM. -- mit freundlichen Gr??en, Brian. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/