Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261810AbVEVOgT (ORCPT ); Sun, 22 May 2005 10:36:19 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261813AbVEVOgT (ORCPT ); Sun, 22 May 2005 10:36:19 -0400 Received: from krusty.dt.E-Technik.Uni-Dortmund.DE ([129.217.163.1]:5612 "EHLO mail.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261810AbVEVOgP (ORCPT ); Sun, 22 May 2005 10:36:15 -0400 Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 16:36:12 +0200 From: Matthias Andree To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [OT] Joerg Schilling flames Linux on his Blog/cdrecord replacement Message-ID: <20050522143612.GC13232@merlin.emma.line.org> Mail-Followup-To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <200505201345.15584.pmcfarland@downeast.net> <105c793f050521182269294d64@mail.gmail.com> <42900929.1000408@khandalf.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42900929.1000408@khandalf.com> X-PGP-Key: http://home.pages.de/~mandree/keys/GPGKEY.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2097 Lines: 47 On Sun, 22 May 2005, Brian O'Mahoney wrote: > 1-- > SUN uses RPM internally, but continues to insist its Solaris Can this please move to a Sun vs Linux advocacy group or list? While Solaris' pkg* is certainly inferior to aptitude/dpkg, what the heck has this got to do with the Linux kernel? ... > 2-- > There was little wrong with cdrecord until DVDs came out and > H Schilling decided to take DVD PRO private and became petty > about his build system, smake, and others extending a fork > of cdrecord to support DVDs; which was done by both SuSE and > Debian -- but with weird add in Copyright, and you can't change > this, and "Inofficial Version" junk from Schilling. Check GPL clause 2 a - it was Schilling's right to insist that the modified versions displayed those notices. If we make a fuss about netfilter GPL compliance, we must grant that application programmers make the same fuss about GPL compliance if distributors hack the versions with inofficial patches. And there has been a time when I've been using the "vanilla" versions because the SUSE versions didn't work for me, for reasons I wouldn't investigate, so I have nothing to complain about. ProDVD being commercial has fostered alternative free DVD writing software that works with Linux, so just use it and move on. Pragmatism is sometimes the option of less resistance. :) It is true Schilling's unrelated rants (like making GNU make sleep for 15 seconds or such) are tiresome and often fought in places where they are inappropriate, but his complaints about ide-scsi not working properly and the Kernel inventing SG_IO for ide-cd and the command filtering behind it and all that fuss were fundamentally right, if a bit exaggerated in volume. Let's see what becomes of ide-scsi and all that as libata takes over parallel ATA devices in the future %-) -- Matthias Andree - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/