Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262276AbVEYGKe (ORCPT ); Wed, 25 May 2005 02:10:34 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262271AbVEYGKe (ORCPT ); Wed, 25 May 2005 02:10:34 -0400 Received: from mx1.elte.hu ([157.181.1.137]:61361 "EHLO mx1.elte.hu") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S263926AbVEYGGY (ORCPT ); Wed, 25 May 2005 02:06:24 -0400 Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 08:05:51 +0200 From: Ingo Molnar To: Nick Piggin Cc: Lee Revell , Andrew Morton , Sven Dietrich , dwalker@mvista.com, bhuey@lnxw.com, hch@infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: RT patch acceptance Message-ID: <20050525060551.GA5164@elte.hu> References: <1116978244.19926.41.camel@dhcp153.mvista.com> <20050525001019.GA18048@nietzsche.lynx.com> <1116981913.19926.58.camel@dhcp153.mvista.com> <20050525005942.GA24893@nietzsche.lynx.com> <1116982977.19926.63.camel@dhcp153.mvista.com> <20050524184351.47d1a147.akpm@osdl.org> <4293DCB1.8030904@mvista.com> <20050524192029.2ef75b89.akpm@osdl.org> <1116987976.2912.110.camel@mindpipe> <4293EFE8.1080106@yahoo.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4293EFE8.1080106@yahoo.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-ELTE-SpamVersion: MailScanner 4.31.6-itk1 (ELTE 1.2) SpamAssassin 2.63 ClamAV 0.73 X-ELTE-VirusStatus: clean X-ELTE-SpamCheck: no X-ELTE-SpamCheck-Details: score=-4.9, required 5.9, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00 -4.90 X-ELTE-SpamLevel: X-ELTE-SpamScore: -4 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 941 Lines: 27 * Nick Piggin wrote: > Lee Revell wrote: > > > The IDE IRQ handler can in fact run for several ms, which people > > sure can detect. > > Are you serious? Even at 10ms, the monitor refresh rate would have to > be over 100Hz for anyone to "notice" anything, right?... [...] you are assuming direct observation. Sure, a human (normally) doesnt notice smaller than say 10-20 msec of lag. But, a human very much notices indirect effects of latencies, such as the nasty 'click' a soundcard produces if it overruns. > What sort of numbers are you talking when you say several? a couple of msecs easily even on fast boxes. Well over 10 msecs on slower boxes. Ingo - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/