Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261846AbVEZXab (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 May 2005 19:30:31 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261847AbVEZXab (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 May 2005 19:30:31 -0400 Received: from krusty.dt.E-Technik.Uni-Dortmund.DE ([129.217.163.1]:20666 "EHLO mail.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261846AbVEZXaY (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 May 2005 19:30:24 -0400 Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 01:30:21 +0200 From: Matthias Andree To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: OT] Joerg Schilling flames Linux on his Blog Message-ID: <20050526233021.GA26794@merlin.emma.line.org> Mail-Followup-To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <4847F-8q-23@gated-at.bofh.it> <4295005F.nail2KW319F89@burner> <8E909B69-1F19-4520-B162-B811E288B647@mac.com> <42962180.6080800@tmr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: http://home.pages.de/~mandree/keys/GPGKEY.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1595 Lines: 32 On Thu, 26 May 2005, Kyle Moffett wrote: > I don't use the three-number made-up SCSI-over-USB IDs that Joerg was > complaining about being unavailable. I have mine set up based on the > UUID of the burner. I'm sorry for being unclear, but my objection is > to his desire to expose the SCSI IDs to userspace as the primary > naming scheme, when said SCSI IDs are frequently just made up by the > kernel for USB devices, etc. Given that I know the SCSI IDs of every single device I install, am not using SCAM, I don't object to using SCSI IDs, unfortunately, SCSI CD or DVD writers are rare and costly - I'd prefer them over ATAPI every day since I take one PCI device to connect like half a dozen narrow SCSI devices. ATAPI is so wasteful. And I have bought SCSI for as long as somewhat up-to-date devices were available. Things get interesting though with ATAPI, ATAPICAM, ide-scsi, ide-cd and all sorts of interfaces since probing various busses is something that requires user intervention or trial & error to list _all_ devices in different buses, and drives have unlogical bus numbers (seen these on FreeBSD), or more generally, when cdrecord tries to coerce a device numbering scheme on devices that are not enumerated, or devices that are hotplug with device numbers changing with every plug-in action, or whatever. -- Matthias Andree - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/