Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261333AbVE2O6e (ORCPT ); Sun, 29 May 2005 10:58:34 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261334AbVE2O6e (ORCPT ); Sun, 29 May 2005 10:58:34 -0400 Received: from 65-102-103-67.albq.qwest.net ([65.102.103.67]:64429 "EHLO montezuma.fsmlabs.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261333AbVE2O6c (ORCPT ); Sun, 29 May 2005 10:58:32 -0400 Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 09:00:49 -0600 (MDT) From: Zwane Mwaikambo To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu cc: Lee Revell , Bill Huey , Nick Piggin , Andi Kleen , Sven-Thorsten Dietrich , Ingo Molnar , dwalker@mvista.com, hch@infradead.org, akpm@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: RT patch acceptance In-Reply-To: <200505290408.j4T487n6024489@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Message-ID: References: <1117044019.5840.32.camel@sdietrich-xp.vilm.net> <20050526193230.GY86087@muc.de> <1117138270.1583.44.camel@sdietrich-xp.vilm.net> <20050526202747.GB86087@muc.de> <4296ADE9.50805@yahoo.com.au> <20050527120812.GA375@nietzsche.lynx.com> <429715DE.6030008@yahoo.com.au> <20050527233645.GA2283@nietzsche.lynx.com> <4297EB57.5090902@yahoo.com.au> <20050528054503.GA2958@nietzsche.lynx.com> <1117334933.11397.21.camel@mindpipe> <200505290408.j4T487n6024489@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1494 Lines: 32 On Sun, 29 May 2005 Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote: > On Sat, 28 May 2005 20:58:23 MDT, Zwane Mwaikambo said: > > On Sat, 28 May 2005, Lee Revell wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 2005-05-28 at 19:55 -0600, Zwane Mwaikambo wrote: > > > > Media apps are actually not that commonplace as far as hard realtime > > > > applications are concerned. > > > > > > Audio capture and playback always have a hard realtime constraint. That > > > is, unless you don't mind your VoIP call sounding as crappy as a cell > > > phone... > > > > It still doesn't mean that media apps are commonplace and who says cell > > phones don't use RTOS' for their lower level software stacks? > > I'd be wildly surprised if media apps *were* commonplace on an operating > system that didn't supply the needed scheduling infrastructure. > > That's as straw-man as commenting that applications that used more than 16 > processors weren't commonplace on Linux before the scalability work that made > it feasible to build systems with more than 2 CPUs.... I'm not talking about Linux (which should be obvious as Linux isn't an RTOS), so it has nothing to do with Linux capabilities. I'm referring to general hard realtime applications and their use of realtime operating systems. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/