Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261626AbVE3OxC (ORCPT ); Mon, 30 May 2005 10:53:02 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261617AbVE3OvW (ORCPT ); Mon, 30 May 2005 10:51:22 -0400 Received: from brick.kernel.dk ([62.242.22.158]:53459 "EHLO nelson.home.kernel.dk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261610AbVE3Out (ORCPT ); Mon, 30 May 2005 10:50:49 -0400 Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 16:51:51 +0200 From: Jens Axboe To: Greg Stark Cc: "Eric D. Mudama" , Matthias Andree , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jgarzik@pobox.com Subject: Re: [PATCH] SATA NCQ support Message-ID: <20050530145151.GU7054@suse.de> References: <20050527131842.GC19161@merlin.emma.line.org> <20050527135258.GW1435@suse.de> <429732CE.5010708@gmx.de> <20050527145821.GX1435@suse.de> <87oeatxtw4.fsf@stark.xeocode.com> <311601c905052921046692cd3e@mail.gmail.com> <87d5r9xmgr.fsf@stark.xeocode.com> <20050530063322.GE7054@suse.de> <20050530121635.GQ7054@suse.de> <20050530123706.GR7054@suse.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050530123706.GR7054@suse.de> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 3800 Lines: 87 On Mon, May 30 2005, Jens Axboe wrote: > On Mon, May 30 2005, Jens Axboe wrote: > > On Mon, May 30 2005, Jens Axboe wrote: > > > > People actually tend to report that IDE drives are *faster*. Until > > > > they're told they have to disable write-caching on their IDE drives to > > > > get a fair comparison, then the performance is absolutely abysmal. The > > > > interesting thing is that SCSI drives don't seem to take much of a > > > > performance hit from having write-caching disabled while IDE drives > > > > do. > > > > > > NCQ will surely lessen the impact of disabling write caching, how much > > > still remains to be seen. You could test, if you have the hardware :) > > > Real life testing is more interesting than benchmarks. > > > > With a few simple tests, I'm unable to show any write performance > > improvement with write back caching off and NCQ (NCQ with queueing depth > > of 1 and 16 tested). I get a steady 0.55-0.57MiB/sec with 8 threads > > random writes, a little over 5MiB/sec with sequential writes. > > > > Reads are _much_ nicer. Sequential read with 8 threads are 23% faster > > with a queueing depth of 16 than 1, random reads are 85% (!!) faster at > > depth 16 than 1. > > > > Testing was done with the noop io scheduler this time, to only show NCQ > > benefits outside of what the io scheduler can do for reordering. > > > > This is with a Maxtor 7B300S0 drive. I would have posted results for a > > Seagate ST3120827AS as well, but that drive happily ignores any attempt > > to turn off write back caching. To top things off, it even accepts FUA > > writes but ignores that as well (they still go to cache). > > Actually, I partly take that back. The Seagate _does_ honor drive write > back caching disable and it does show a nice improvement with NCQ for > that case. Results are as follows: > > 8 thread io case, 4kb block size, noop io scheduler, ST3120827AS. > > Write cache off: > > Depth 1 Depth 30 Diff > Seq read: 18.94 21.51 + 14% > Ran read: 0.86 1.24 + 44% > Seq write: 6.58 19.30 + 193% > Ran write: 1.00 1.27 + 27% > > Write cache on: > > Depth 1 Depth 30 Diff > Seq read: 18.78 21.58 + 15% > Ran read: 0.84 1.20 + 43% > Seq write: 24.49 23.26 - 5% > Ran write: 1.55 1.63 + 5% > > Huge benefit on writes with NCQ when write back caching is off, with it > on I think the deviation is within standard jitter of this benchmark. The Maxtor drive shipped with write back caching off, I actually knew and forgot that... So that of course changes the picture, same test as the Seagate above run on the Maxtor: Write cache off: Depth 1 Depth 30 Diff Seq read: 19.83 22.46 + 13% Ran read: 0.73 1.33 + 82% Seq write: 10.51 5.65 - 47% Ran write: 0.55 0.56 + 1% Write cache on: Depth 1 Depth 30 Diff Seq read: 19.83 34.35 + 73% Ran read: 0.86 1.54 + 79% Seq write: 25.82 35.21 + 36% Ran write: 3.12 3.27 + 5% Still something fishy going on. Eric, this is with both B0 and BM firmware on these drives, any known bugs there? -- Jens Axboe - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/