Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261228AbVEaT2X (ORCPT ); Tue, 31 May 2005 15:28:23 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261259AbVEaT2X (ORCPT ); Tue, 31 May 2005 15:28:23 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.170.200]:49709 "EHLO rproxy.gmail.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261228AbVEaT2S convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Tue, 31 May 2005 15:28:18 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TJpXIHZ/dAMYcs1G4lTm3vgpgHBKQOTxJfXi9tDcsQxu+YIVhZhjJCUM/uVv1A146wMBr9IFxK+2XqAEPMla3Kdj3Z2xBn2HTjshpbY57G8IEywaGe6f3OqMFvjfBWN791hsLLmNhptDJwAp2ZFArThyErLEFh1gbL3XlT4pnu4= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 14:28:16 -0500 From: Dmitry Torokhov Reply-To: dtor_core@ameritech.net To: Joerg Schilling , mrmacman_g4@mac.com, toon@hout.vanvergehaald.nl, ltd@cisco.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dtor_core@ameritech.net, 7eggert@gmx.de Subject: Re: OT] Joerg Schilling flames Linux on his Blog In-Reply-To: <20050531172204.GD17338@voodoo> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Disposition: inline References: <26A66BC731DAB741837AF6B2E29C10171E60DE@xmb-hkg-413.apac.cisco.com> <20050530093420.GB15347@hout.vanvergehaald.nl> <429B0683.nail5764GYTVC@burner> <46BE0C64-1246-4259-914B-379071712F01@mac.com> <429C4483.nail5X0215WJQ@burner> <20050531172204.GD17338@voodoo> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1584 Lines: 36 On 5/31/05, Jim Crilly wrote: > On 05/31/05 01:03:31PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > > > > And why again do you need stable SCSI addresses for my _USB_ drive? > > > > Well if the udev program was polite to users, it would also support > > to edit /etc/default/cdrecord...... > > > > ... if it _really_ does wat you like with /dev/ links, then it has all > > the information that is needed to also maintain /etc/default/cdrecord > > The rules and scripts that udev uses to name things can do anything since > it runs in userland, so udev could easily edit /etc/default/cdrecord if > someone took the time to write the script. > Yes it could but why should it? The purpose of udev is to maintain dynamic /dev. Do you want to have thoustands quirks in udev to cope with bazillion configuration files for utilities whose authors refuse to adopt standard naming convention [for the operating system in question]. I do not understand why Joerg is so fixed on presenting SCSI interface to userspace. Why when I mount just burned CD I can use /dev/scd0 but for writing it I should say dev=5,4,0?? I do not really care that internally X,Y,Z might or might not used, they should not be exposed to userspace, especially since days when they could be used for static device identification are long gone. -- Dmitry - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/