From: "Jim Crilly" <jim@why.dont.jablowme.net>
Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 16:54:49 -0400
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Subject: Re: OT] Joerg Schilling flames Linux on his Blog
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On 05/31/05 02:28:16PM -0500, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> Yes it could but why should it? The purpose of udev is to maintain
> dynamic /dev. Do you want to have thoustands quirks in udev to cope
> with bazillion configuration files for utilities whose authors refuse
> to adopt standard naming convention [for the operating system in
> question].

I didn't say it was a good idea, just that it was possible to do what he
wants.

> 
> I do not understand why Joerg is so fixed on presenting SCSI interface
> to userspace. Why when I mount just burned CD I can use /dev/scd0 but
> for writing it I should say dev=5,4,0?? I do not really care that
> internally X,Y,Z might or might not used, they should not be exposed
> to userspace, especially since days when they could be used for static
> device identification are long gone.

I totally agree, whenever I use cdrecord I use dev=/dev/whatever and will
continue to do so until it no longer works. But if that ever happens I
would hope another tool would take it's place. And contrary to what he
believes I also burned as a non-root user so it wasn't able to set itself
to rt or mlock itself into memory and I've never burned a coaster that I
could blame on either case even on my slowest machines.

> -- 
> Dmitry

Jim.
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