Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 26 Jul 2001 09:55:43 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 26 Jul 2001 09:55:34 -0400 Received: from perninha.conectiva.com.br ([200.250.58.156]:45320 "HELO perninha.conectiva.com.br") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Thu, 26 Jul 2001 09:55:22 -0400 Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 10:55:20 -0300 (BRST) From: Rik van Riel X-X-Sender: To: Alan Cox Cc: Matthias Andree , Andrew Morton , lkml , "ext3-users@redhat.com" Subject: Re: ext3-2.4-0.9.4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Original-Recipient: rfc822;linux-kernel-outgoing On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Alan Cox wrote: > > The competition is there and it has names: BSD + ufs + softupdates, > > Solaris + logging ufs. Read MTA mailing lists before obstructing. > > All of which are - not unsuprisingly - using a log. In fact > Solaris logging ufs and ext3 are very similar ideas - adding a > log to an existing fs. Softupdates isn't using logging. Furthermore, even the journaling filesystems won't all guarantee that the various parts of a rename() operation will all be in the same transaction. An MTA which relies on this is therefore Broken(tm). cheers, Rik -- Executive summary of a recent Microsoft press release: "we are concerned about the GNU General Public License (GPL)" http://www.surriel.com/ http://www.conectiva.com/ http://distro.conectiva.com/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/