Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 26 Jul 2001 12:13:55 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 26 Jul 2001 12:13:45 -0400 Received: from perninha.conectiva.com.br ([200.250.58.156]:58634 "HELO perninha.conectiva.com.br") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Thu, 26 Jul 2001 12:13:33 -0400 Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 13:13:34 -0300 (BRST) From: Rik van Riel X-X-Sender: To: Matthias Andree Cc: Christoph Hellwig , lkml Subject: Re: ext3-2.4-0.9.4 In-Reply-To: <20010726174844.W17244@emma1.emma.line.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Original-Recipient: rfc822;linux-kernel-outgoing On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Matthias Andree wrote: > Christoph Hellwig schrieb am Donnerstag, den 26. Juli 2001: > > > So they rely on undocumented and non standadisized semantics of some > > implementations. I'd call this buggy. > > If each in the set of "supported systems" document this > behaviour for themselves, there is no bug. The MTA depends on behaviour which is undefined. Now you want to go blame the OS ? > Go tell your opinion to those people that refuse to wrap their > rename/link calls with open()/fsync() calls to the respective parents, > particularly Daniel J. Bernstein, Wietse Z. Venema, among others. I > don't possibly know all MTAs. If you care about your email, probably you should either teach these people about standards like POSIX or SuS (and tell them to not rely on undefined behaviour) or switch to an MTA which isn't broken in various ways ;) cheers, Rik -- Executive summary of a recent Microsoft press release: "we are concerned about the GNU General Public License (GPL)" http://www.surriel.com/ http://www.conectiva.com/ http://distro.conectiva.com/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/