Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1750775AbVIEC3w (ORCPT ); Sun, 4 Sep 2005 22:29:52 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1750838AbVIEC3w (ORCPT ); Sun, 4 Sep 2005 22:29:52 -0400 Received: from web50203.mail.yahoo.com ([206.190.38.44]:22351 "HELO web50203.mail.yahoo.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1750775AbVIEC3v (ORCPT ); Sun, 4 Sep 2005 22:29:51 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=fszO4NhaZymF8u+2gJvkdsONp7kcnP19ItsFtGNpKJCbagq3W5X8B+cmKZv0qMT3bf3azPKqNq/5TVjZzHV2uxQNkLBjwTqe3lXbhlvQYXeQhymtUDaAHtF94kaqi8hgOuV3ayMnYjCwYlouT1f3W9ehyRHWRSuKVrn4UMAfl1k= ; Message-ID: <20050905022943.46272.qmail@web50203.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 19:29:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Davis Subject: re: RFC: i386: kill !4KSTACKS To: Sean Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <39271.10.10.10.10.1125886053.squirrel@linux1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1680 Lines: 50 --- Sean wrote: > On Sun, September 4, 2005 10:00 pm, Alex Davis said: > > Dave Jones wrote: > >>- NDISwrapper / driverloader. > >> (Shock, horror - no-one cares). > > > > Shock, horror. Someone DOES care: everyone who uses ndiswrapper or > > driverloader, whether they know it or not. Are you proposing that > > we punish the end-users because of the obstinence of the hardware > > manufacturers? If/when native drivers are written, maybe we can > > revisit this. > > > Continuing the promotion of binary-only drivers _hurts_ the demand for > (and thus the development of) open source drivers. Read the comment from > Dave as something like "Nobody who matters, with regard to kernel > development, cares about NDISwrapper". If _you_ care, fork your own tree > and maintain the patch as necessary. > > Regards, > Sean Sean: Linux isn't just used by kernel developers. It's that attitude that helps insure Linux will always have a small userbase. Lack of numbers just gives the manufacturers another reason not to care about us. Joe User doesn't care about our philosophical issues, nor should he. When I install Linux on someone's machine, he wants it to work NOW, not in some 'perfect-world' future. -Alex -Alex > I code, therefore I am __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/