Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 26 Jul 2001 18:13:18 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 26 Jul 2001 18:13:08 -0400 Received: from humbolt.nl.linux.org ([131.211.28.48]:8710 "EHLO humbolt.nl.linux.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 26 Jul 2001 18:13:02 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Daniel Phillips To: Larry McVoy , Linus Torvalds Subject: Re: ext3-2.4-0.9.4 Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 00:17:53 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20010726174844.W17244@emma1.emma.line.org> <9jpftj$356$1@penguin.transmeta.com> <20010726095452.L27780@work.bitmover.com> In-Reply-To: <20010726095452.L27780@work.bitmover.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01072700175303.00285@starship> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Original-Recipient: rfc822;linux-kernel-outgoing On Thursday 26 July 2001 18:54, Larry McVoy wrote: > On Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 04:18:59PM +0000, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > In article , > > > > Alan Cox wrote: > > >> Go tell your opinion to those people that refuse to wrap their > > >> rename/link calls with open()/fsync() calls to the respective > > >> parents, particularly Daniel J. Bernstein, Wietse Z. Venema, > > >> among others. I don't possibly know all MTAs. > > > > > >I've pointed things out to Mr Bernstein before. His normal replies > > > are not helpful and generally vary between random ravings and > > > threatening to sue people who publish things on web pages he > > > disagrees with. > > > > Now, now, Alan. He has strong opinions, I'll agree, but I've never > > see him threaten to _sue_. > > In the for what it is worth department, I spent the day with Daniel > after the kernel summit meeting a while back, we talked file systems > for about 6 or 7 hours. While I'll plead guilty to getting mad at > him (his ego is up there with mine :-), I came away impressed with > his knowledge. I get the feeling that he thinks deeply about the > problems he works on, he's probably right a lot of the time, *and* as > with many deep thinkers, he has a problem communicating his ideas. > > This is a common problem, and I'm not sure Daniel is fully aware of > it. One cannot expect other people to have done the same thinking and > have the same context, and when they do not, it is easy to get > frustrated. I think that some of Daniel's "ravings" are probably just > frustration that the other person "doesn't get it". > > That doesn't mean that Daniel is the right hand of God or anything, > I've seen him do some stupid things but I've seen all of us do some > stupid things, so that doesn't mean much. I think Daniel does way > more smart things than stupid things, and not all of us can claim > that (sort of like half of the drivers are below average, noone likes > that idea either). > > What I'm trying to say is that I think Daniel is one of the good > guys, even though his user interface could stand improvement (a > common thing amongst smart people) and it looks like it would be > smart to figure out how to work with him. > > Just my opinion... Heh, very interesting, but you seem to have created a collage of two different Daniels ;-) -- Daniel - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/