Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932123AbVIGMHY (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 Sep 2005 08:07:24 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751205AbVIGMHY (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 Sep 2005 08:07:24 -0400 Received: from mail.dvmed.net ([216.237.124.58]:18157 "EHLO mail.dvmed.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751204AbVIGMHY (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 Sep 2005 08:07:24 -0400 Message-ID: <431ED7F2.5030200@pobox.com> Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 08:07:14 -0400 From: Jeff Garzik User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6-1.1.fc4 (X11/20050720) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Piel CC: =?UTF-8?B?TcOgcml1cyBNb250w7Nu?= , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mulix@mulix.org Subject: Re: 'virtual HW' into kernel (SystemC) References: <431EC16B.2040604@uab.es> <431ED1B9.7040407@pobox.com> <431ED6DC.9040503@lifl.fr> In-Reply-To: <431ED6DC.9040503@lifl.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1238 Lines: 42 Eric Piel wrote: > 09/07/2005 01:40 PM, Jeff Garzik wrote/a écrit: >> No need for a set of tools. As long as your SystemC simulator >> simulates an entire platform -- CPU, DRAM, etc. -- then you can boot >> Linux on the simulated platform. >> >> If you can boot Linux on the simulated platform, then you can easily >> develop a Linux driver long before real HW is available. > > > No, this approach is not feasible because it would be require to > describe the entire computer in SystemC: Correct. > it's extremly complex to do Not if you can reuse pre-existing parts from http://www.opencores.org/ and similar places. > the simulation will be very slow. Depends on your simulator ;-) > From what I understand Màrius tries to only simulate one component > (like a PCI card). As suggested Muli, a plugin to something like quemu > sounds like a good idea? A plugin to qemu or Bochs should work, in theory. In practice, neither are great for PCI MMIO or PCI DMA. Jeff - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/