Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1030239AbVIILOu (ORCPT ); Fri, 9 Sep 2005 07:14:50 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1030240AbVIILOu (ORCPT ); Fri, 9 Sep 2005 07:14:50 -0400 Received: from gold.veritas.com ([143.127.12.110]:30040 "EHLO gold.veritas.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1030239AbVIILOt (ORCPT ); Fri, 9 Sep 2005 07:14:49 -0400 Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 12:14:38 +0100 (BST) From: Hugh Dickins X-X-Sender: hugh@goblin.wat.veritas.com To: Andi Kleen cc: Jan Beulich , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, discuss@x86-64.org Subject: Re: [discuss] [PATCH] allow CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER for x86-64 In-Reply-To: <200509091258.13300.ak@suse.de> Message-ID: References: <43207D28020000780002451E@emea1-mh.id2.novell.com> <4321749202000078000248C5@emea1-mh.id2.novell.com> <200509091258.13300.ak@suse.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Sep 2005 11:14:49.0371 (UTC) FILETIME=[B15D76B0:01C5B52F] Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1041 Lines: 25 On Fri, 9 Sep 2005, Andi Kleen wrote: > > It won't give more accurate backtraces, not even on i386 because show_stack > doesn't have any code to follow frame pointers. Ah, right. I'm using kdb with it. (And my recollection of when show_stack did have a framepointer version, is that it was hopelessly broken on interrupt frames, and we're much better off without it.) > The only reason to use them would be external debuggers, but those > don't need them on x86-64 neither. Don't need them, but find them as useful on x86_64 as on i386? Certainly, I can go on patching in FRAME_POINTERs for x86_64 as I have done, no problem with that. But it seems both bogus and unhelpful to have that "&& !X86_64" in lib/Kconfig.debug - framepointers are as helpful/useless on x86_64 as the rest. Hugh - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/