Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 16:36:34 -0700
From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: gregkh@suse.de, davej@codemonkey.org.uk, arjan@infradead.org,
       linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz
Subject: Re: [GIT PATCH] More PCI patches for 2.6.13
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Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> On Fri, 9 Sep 2005, Greg KH wrote:
> > 
> > I fixed up all of the PCI core and USB drivers that were flagged by
> > these warnings already.  Biggest area left is network drivers that I
> > saw.
> 
> The reason I really dislike patches like these is that it causes people to 
> do questionable things.
> 
> For example, there may be perfectly valid reasons why somebody doesn't
> care about the result. I don't see much point in forcing people to check
> the return value of "pci_enable_wake()" for example. There's really no
> real reason to ever care, as far as I can tell - if it fails, there's 
> nothing you can really do about it anyway.
> 
> Also, in general, the fact is that things like "pci_set_power_state()" 
> might fail in _theory_, but we just don't care. A driver that doesn't 
> check the return value is in practice as good a driver as one that does, 
> and forcing people to add code that is totally useless in reality - or 
> look at a warning that is irritating - is just not very productive.
> 
> There are functions where it is really _important_ to check the error 
> return, because they return errors often enough - and the error case is 
> something you have to do something about - that it's good to force people 
> to be aware.
> 
> But "pci_set_power_state()"?
> 
> I don't think so.
> 

If something like a PCI power management function fails then it will likely
cause suspend or resume to malfunction, and we have a lot of such problems.

So we-the-developers do need to hear about it when such functions fail.  So
either a) each and every driver has to blurt a printk (dumb) or b) we stick
a warning and a backtrace in the failing function (better).
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