Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S965034AbVIOEMp (ORCPT ); Thu, 15 Sep 2005 00:12:45 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S965257AbVIOEMp (ORCPT ); Thu, 15 Sep 2005 00:12:45 -0400 Received: from nome.ca ([65.61.200.81]:19131 "HELO gobo.nome.ca") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S965034AbVIOEMp (ORCPT ); Thu, 15 Sep 2005 00:12:45 -0400 Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 21:13:34 -0700 From: Mike Bell To: Robert Love Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: devfs vs udev FAQ from the other side Message-ID: <20050915041334.GJ15017@mikebell.org> Mail-Followup-To: Mike Bell , Robert Love , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20050915005105.GD15017@mikebell.org> <1126746518.9652.60.camel@phantasy> <20050915020935.GF15017@mikebell.org> <1126754270.9652.64.camel@phantasy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1126754270.9652.64.camel@phantasy> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1507 Lines: 30 On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 11:17:50PM -0400, Robert Love wrote: > If you can survive without modernism, Features I don't need are "modernism"? Who defines what's "modern" and what's merely "useless"? Some things in newer kernels are very, very useful. Even sysfs is useful on some of my systems. But no, I generally try to avoid turning on features that I'm not even going to use on a given system. Do you install things you're not going to use on your machines? Maybe two or three different SQL servers, just to be extra-modern? Especially when I'm paying for every megabyte of flash x1k or x10k, I don't want to waste it on a bunch of unused kernel->userspace interfaces just to prove how incredibly hip to the latest linux fads I am. > why can't you survive without devfs? Why do you need it? Why can't you read any of the many threads on this subject where I explained this already? :) devfs's removal from the kernel isn't going to end my life, no. In fact it won't even stop me using linux. But it makes my job harder and more expensive, and as my little FAQ explains I don't feel I'm getting anything out of the deal (remember, udev's naming features are different to udev's device node creation, there's no reason you can't have one without the other). - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/