Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932601AbVIOGSR (ORCPT ); Thu, 15 Sep 2005 02:18:17 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932536AbVIOGSQ (ORCPT ); Thu, 15 Sep 2005 02:18:16 -0400 Received: from h80ad2507.async.vt.edu ([128.173.37.7]:31362 "EHLO h80ad2507.async.vt.edu") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932527AbVIOGSP (ORCPT ); Thu, 15 Sep 2005 02:18:15 -0400 Message-Id: <200509150618.j8F6I9ji020578@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.2 01/07/2005 with nmh-1.1-RC3 To: marekw1977@yahoo.com.au Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Automatic Configuration of a Kernel In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:18:13 +1000." <200509151418.13927.marekw1977@yahoo.com.au> From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu References: <20050914223836.53814.qmail@web51011.mail.yahoo.com> <1126753444.13893.123.camel@mindpipe> <200509151418.13927.marekw1977@yahoo.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1126765087_2866P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 02:18:08 -0400 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2269 Lines: 54 --==_Exmh_1126765087_2866P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:18:13 +1000, Marek W said: > Not so much the kernel. When compiling the kernel I'd prefer not to waste time > and space compiling the 100+ modules I will never ever use on my laptop. It's actually a lot worse than that - here's my minimized custom kernel that drives everything on my laptop and then some, and a recent Fedora kernel: [/lib/modules]2 find 2.6.13-mm1/kernel/drivers -name '*.ko' | wc -l 37 [/lib/modules]2 find 2.6.12-1.1400_FC5/kernel/drivers/ -name '*.ko' | wc -l 832 (OK, so I *do* have a few builtins that Fedora builds as modules. That's gonna change the numbers by half a dozen or so...) > I'd > prefer for something to select the modules necessary for my hardware. I can't > afford the time to keep up to date with that's new and what isn't, what has > changed, what has been superseded, which module works with which device, > chipset even, etc... I'm of the opinion that if you don't have that much time, you should be using a distro kernel where somebody *else* is taking the time. If you're the type that builds their own kernel, the *last* thing you want is a tool glossing over the fact that a module has been superceded. Who's going to take care of the matching changes for /etc/modprobe.conf and similar userspace changes, and other stuff like that? (I figure if 'make oldconfig' asks a question, I should take notice, and any userspace changes that don't get made are my fault - and if 'make oldconfig' switches drivers on me without asking, that's a *bug* that lkml will hear about.. ;) --==_Exmh_1126765087_2866P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 iD8DBQFDKRIfcC3lWbTT17ARAgXxAKDyXM+/cftAA/LlPaIFlufW3eS2ygCfZHyZ LbxW36CbqV/RP6H1OxMLHDM= =Szi1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1126765087_2866P-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/