Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751283AbVIPUus (ORCPT ); Fri, 16 Sep 2005 16:50:48 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751285AbVIPUus (ORCPT ); Fri, 16 Sep 2005 16:50:48 -0400 Received: from perpugilliam.csclub.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.134.31]:3557 "EHLO perpugilliam.csclub.uwaterloo.ca") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751283AbVIPUur (ORCPT ); Fri, 16 Sep 2005 16:50:47 -0400 Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 16:50:45 -0400 To: Hans Reiser Cc: Christoph Hellwig , Andrew Morton , Linus Torvalds , LKML , ReiserFS List Subject: Re: I request inclusion of reiser4 in the mainline kernel Message-ID: <20050916205045.GI28578@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> References: <432AFB44.9060707@namesys.com> <20050916174028.GA32745@infradead.org> <432B1F84.3000902@namesys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <432B1F84.3000902@namesys.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Lennart Sorensen) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1684 Lines: 39 On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 12:39:48PM -0700, Hans Reiser wrote: > Most of my customers remark that Namesys code is head and shoulders > above the rest of the kernel code. So yes, it is different. In > particular, they cite the XFS code as being so incredibly hard to read > that its unreadability is worth hundreds of thousands of dollars in > license fees for me. That's cash received, from persons who read it > all, not commentary made idly. > > May I suggest that you work on the XFS code instead? Surely with all of > this energy you have, you could improve XFS a lot before it gets > accepted into the kernel. > > As for the indirections, if you figure out how to make VFS indirections > easy to follow, the same technique should be applicable to Reiser4, and > I will be happy to fix it. > > (Note for the record: I actually think XFS acceptance was delayed too > long, and I think that XFS is a great filesystem, but a rhetorical point > needed to be made......) Well my experience with XFS for about 6 months using 2.6 kernels has been about as good as my experience with reiserfs 3.6 back when 2.4 was fairly new. That's why I run ext3. I don't need my filesystem locking up, leaking memory all over the place, causing processes to be killed byt the out of memory handler, etc. I will stick with what works all the time. Performance and nifty features are fun, but only when they don't break your system. Len Sorensen - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/