Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751351AbVI1Qay (ORCPT ); Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:30:54 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751372AbVI1Qay (ORCPT ); Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:30:54 -0400 Received: from turing-police.cc.vt.edu ([128.173.14.107]:21964 "EHLO turing-police.cc.vt.edu") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751351AbVI1Qax (ORCPT ); Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:30:53 -0400 Message-Id: <200509281630.j8SGULJi022471@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.2 01/07/2005 with nmh-1.1-RC3 To: ltuikov@yahoo.com Cc: Andre Hedrick , Luben Tuikov , Jeff Garzik , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Andrew Morton , Linus Torvalds , SCSI Mailing List Subject: Re: I request inclusion of SAS Transport Layer and AIC-94xx into the kernel In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 28 Sep 2005 04:37:03 PDT." <20050928113703.65626.qmail@web31806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu References: <20050928113703.65626.qmail@web31806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1127925020_3988P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:30:21 -0400 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1666 Lines: 47 --==_Exmh_1127925020_3988P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 04:37:03 PDT, Luben Tuikov said: > When it comes down to it SCSI Core is 20 years behind and thus Linux Storage > is 20 years behind. Hmm.. 20 years ago I was hooking Fujitsu Super-Eagles to Sun3/280 servers. If you're going to claim that the current SCSI core is *that* far behind, you're going to have to back it up. Remember that making exaggerated claims is a good way to make people not listen to the *rest* of your message. Seen in include/scsi/scsi.h: /* * FIXME: bit0 is listed as reserved in SCSI-2, but is * significant in SCSI-3. For now, we follow the SCSI-2 * behaviour and ignore reserved bits. */ So obviously, it's at least the number of years since SCSI-3 was defined, but no more than the time since SCSI-2. According to http://home.comcast.net/~SCSIguy/SCSI_FAQ/scsifaq.html SCSI-2 devices started showing up in 1988, and X3.131-1994 came out in 1994. 1996 saw the first SCSI-3 proposals. I'll give you *one* decade, but not two. :) --==_Exmh_1127925020_3988P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 iD8DBQFDOsUccC3lWbTT17ARAvapAJ4hW/nwG/5mjFKK5J/oditAkzo/ZQCg0xop ldhssTgPTq/4havuCRkBS30= =RBaE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1127925020_3988P-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/