Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932599AbVI3WGT (ORCPT ); Fri, 30 Sep 2005 18:06:19 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932293AbVI3WGT (ORCPT ); Fri, 30 Sep 2005 18:06:19 -0400 Received: from magic.adaptec.com ([216.52.22.17]:31194 "EHLO magic.adaptec.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1030465AbVI3WGS (ORCPT ); Fri, 30 Sep 2005 18:06:18 -0400 Message-ID: <433DB6BE.4020706@adaptec.com> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 18:05:50 -0400 From: Luben Tuikov User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Bottomley CC: Andre Hedrick , "David S. Miller" , Jeff Garzik , willy@w.ods.org, Patrick Mansfield , ltuikov@yahoo.com, Linux Kernel , Andrew Morton , Linus Torvalds , SCSI Mailing List Subject: Re: I request inclusion of SAS Transport Layer and AIC-94xx into the kernel References: <433D8542.1010601@adaptec.com> <1128113158.12267.29.camel@mulgrave> In-Reply-To: <1128113158.12267.29.camel@mulgrave> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Sep 2005 22:05:50.0453 (UTC) FILETIME=[1E425250:01C5C60B] Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2234 Lines: 61 On 09/30/05 16:45, James Bottomley wrote: > On Fri, 2005-09-30 at 14:34 -0400, Luben Tuikov wrote: > >>James, Linus, can we have this driver in the kernel now, please? > > > A while ago I told you that if you could show that the transport class > abstraction could not support both the aic94xx and LSI SAS cards then we I have, by example and by spec. They both use two different and distinct architectures. Now _you_ have decided that this isn't the case, simply because you want to prove your own idea. (which breaks SAM layering) I think I explained the similarity of the SAS Transport Layer to *USB and SBP*. As I said: everyone wants a pice of the SAS code. You do too. I'm sure you'll do whatever humanly possible to show that _your_ idea can be applied: you can do this now: just use a big if () { ... } else { ... } statement and you're done. Furthermore I do not see the reasons to umbrella both "aic94xx and LSI cards" when they are _completely different_ in architecture: MPT and open transport (ala USB Storage and SBP). > could look at doing SAS differently. Since then you have asserted many > times that a transport class could not work for the aic94xx (mostly by > making inaccurate statements about what the transport class abstraction > is) but have never actually provided any evidence for your assertion. The code is here: http://linux.adaptec.com/sas/ >>Now to things more pertinent, which I'm sure people are interested in: >> >>Jeff has been appointed to the role of integrating the SAS code >>with the Linux SCSI _model_, with James Bottomley's "transport >>attributes". >>So you can expect more patches from him. > > So very soon now, with proof by code, we shall have confirmation or > negation of that assertion. I'll wait quietly for this to happen, and I > would suggest you do the same. I just thought it was only fare to the rest of the community to know how far the politics has escalated. Everyone wants a piece of the SAS code. Luben - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/