Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 08:09:49 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 08:09:39 -0400 Received: from mailhost.lineo.fr ([194.250.46.226]:7173 "EHLO mailhost.lineo.fr") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 08:09:23 -0400 Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:09:27 +0200 From: christophe =?iso-8859-1?Q?barb=E9?= To: William Scott Lockwood III Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Test mail Message-ID: <20010731140927.A31267@pc8.lineo.fr> In-Reply-To: <3B4B4FC10065D2C3@mta1n.bluewin.ch> <20010731103413.E28761@pc8.lineo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: ; from thatlinuxguy@hotmail.com on mar, jui 31, 2001 at 13:42:20 +0200 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.7-cvs20010726 Lines: 79 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Original-Recipient: rfc822;linux-kernel-outgoing Hi William Scott Lockwood III, In your mails, you use outlook and hotmail together. This is a mistake. Outlook is a "not so bad idea" but which comes with a collection of security holes. Eudora is definetly a better choice. Hotmail is a http-based mail owned by microsoft. And all contents which go in it become potential Microsoft content (there's a kind of implicit copyright transfert between you end Microsoft). You should read carrefully what you have (implicitly perhaps) signed. You should avoid Hotmail. This is not related to M$ against Linux but to your rights (to access and only you to your data) against M$ profits. From the Microsoft point of view, Hotmail License is an improvment over the way they lock their clients by using proprietary (embraced-and-extanded) protocols and standarts. Hotmail was the first site to use Microsoft Passport, which is the a draft of .Net. If you accept Hotmail today you will accept the worst of .Net tomorrow. btw You said that Microsoft comes with good solutions. This view (linux is not user friendly) is partly wrong because what is said to be not user friendly is caused by people not accepting differences. M$ users are scared by what we call the unix-way. To conclude and I will stop following this thread, I'm against adding IQ test in the lkml subscribe process. Christophe PS: I don't remember the name but there is a unix tool that provide everything for MsExchange sharing facilities. Le mar, 31 jui 2001 13:42:20, William Scott Lockwood III a ?crit : > Sick? No. > > As much as we dislike M$'s marketing practices, one has to admit that > they DO come up with some GOOD solutions to problems, they just bundle > them into BAD implementations that are non-free. > > As I said earlier, the problem isn't hotmail - the problem is attitudes > like yours. > > Scott > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "christophe barb?" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 3:34 AM > Subject: Re: Test mail > > > > Le lun, 30 jui 2001 22:23:03, William Scott Lockwood III a ?crit : > > Basically, I use a hotmail and Outlook Express to help me SORT > messages > > on LKML. It makes it MUCH easier for me to find the messages I want > to > > read vs the rest of the noise that I don't understand yet. > > Sick ... > > And btw you should read the various HotMail agreements you have signed. > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" > in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ > > -- Christophe Barb? Software Engineer - christophe.barbe@lineo.fr Lineo France - Lineo High Availability Group 42-46, rue M?d?ric - 92110 Clichy - France phone (33).1.41.40.02.12 - fax (33).1.41.40.02.01 http://www.lineo.com - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/