Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932450AbVJDNzM (ORCPT ); Tue, 4 Oct 2005 09:55:12 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932457AbVJDNzM (ORCPT ); Tue, 4 Oct 2005 09:55:12 -0400 Received: from rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl ([153.19.42.16]:58923 "EHLO rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932450AbVJDNzK (ORCPT ); Tue, 4 Oct 2005 09:55:10 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; b=bbkaeN8SJ92NhNqJLaZ4snGONH8lITAwyYW+btO9pKP0EmVoH+vH62Tn01LxLTGkCq/6bP+m674z9/otTk/Q4s3zA26OYKfGmsu6vB1LtAmmH2NnuZtPbQ/MhhuMtuBq0umCcPHF53HGDWXCn4+I4pnMkhpVa51fvhybIGacdQM=; c=nofws; d=rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl; q=dns; s=prime Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 15:55:04 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Tomasz_K=B3oczko?= To: Linus Torvalds cc: Ryan Anderson , Luben Tuikov , andrew.patterson@hp.com, Marcin Dalecki , "Salyzyn, Mark" , dougg@torque.net, Luben Tuikov , SCSI Mailing List , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: I request inclusion of SAS Transport Layer and AIC-94xx into the kernel In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <547AF3BD0F3F0B4CBDC379BAC7E4189F01A9FA11@otce2k03.adaptec.com> <1128105594.10079.109.camel@bluto.andrew> <433D9035.6000504@adaptec.com> <1128111290.10079.147.camel@bluto.andrew> <433DA0DF.9080308@adaptec.com> <1128114950.10079.170.camel@bluto.andrew> <433DB5D7.3020806@adaptec.com> <9B90AC8A-A678-4FFE-B42D-796C8D87D65B@neostrada.pl> <4341381D.2060807@adaptec.com> <1128357350.10079.239.camel@bluto.andrew> <43415EC0.1010506@adaptec.com> <1128377075.23932.5.camel@ryan2.internal.autoweb.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1798302637-1128432835=:28198" Content-ID: Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2169 Lines: 46 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-1798302637-1128432835=:28198 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-2; FORMAT=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Content-ID: On Mon, 3 Oct 2005, Linus Torvalds wrote: [..] > This is especially common in the "cheap" market. For example, for SCSI, > most of the violations tend to be USB storage - which is supposed to act > largely like SCSI, but in reality really doesn't. It locks up if you > try to access sectors that aren't there, etc. Yes .. of course .. but please don't tap some words (without this kind comment) which sounds like rules [1]. *Especialy if* talk is about *one* specified piece of hardware. Moving discuss from one point to full population many people takes as plain trolling. Luben looks like SAS specialist and if you drive discuss outside SAS area this must be confusing for him .. and not only for him. And also .. SAS controlers this is not '"cheap" market'. [1] look at comments at /. and osnews: http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/02/218233&tid=8&tid=106 http://osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=12074 look how many people without proper knowledge level assumes: Linus is authoritet -> Linus says "spec is close to useless" (without looking on context) -> .. probaly spec is realy useless. Of course it is blind repeatig but case like this may ruine many thing aroud Linux .. and forgive me: you must be aware all this. Thank You, sorry and regards kloczek -- ----------------------------------------------------------- *Ludzie nie maj? problem?w, tylko sobie sami je stwarzaj?* ----------------------------------------------------------- Tomasz K?oczko, sys adm @zie.pg.gda.pl|*e-mail: kloczek@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl* --0-1798302637-1128432835=:28198-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/