Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932303AbVJEFgX (ORCPT ); Wed, 5 Oct 2005 01:36:23 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932541AbVJEFgX (ORCPT ); Wed, 5 Oct 2005 01:36:23 -0400 Received: from h80ad258b.async.vt.edu ([128.173.37.139]:1952 "EHLO h80ad258b.async.vt.edu") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932303AbVJEFgX (ORCPT ); Wed, 5 Oct 2005 01:36:23 -0400 Message-Id: <200510050535.j955ZwVE021603@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.2 01/07/2005 with nmh-1.1-RC3 To: Chase Venters Cc: Marc Perkel , Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: what's next for the linux kernel? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 04 Oct 2005 18:40:33 CDT." <200510041840.55820.chase.venters@clientec.com> From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu References: <20051002204703.GG6290@lkcl.net> <4342DC4D.8090908@perkel.com> <200510041840.55820.chase.venters@clientec.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1128490557_2752P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 01:35:57 -0400 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1846 Lines: 44 --==_Exmh_1128490557_2752P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 18:40:33 CDT, Chase Venters said: > Work on dbus and HAL should give us good improvements in these areas. One > remaining challenge I see is system configuration - each daemon tends to > adopt its own syntax for configuration, which means that providing a GUI for > novice users to manage these systems means attacking each problem separately > and in full. Now I certainly wouldn't advocate a Windows-style registry, > because I think it's full of obvious problems. Nevertheless, it would be nice > to have some kind of configuration editor abstraction library that had some > sort of syntax definition database to allow for some interesting work on > GUIs. Anybody who tries to do this without at least understanding the design choices made by AIX's SMIT tool deserves to re-invent it, poorly. > In any case, I think pretty much all of this work lives outside the kernel. Amen to that - although the whole hotplug/udev/sysfs aggregation has at least made a semi-sane way to find out from userspace what the kernel thinks is going on... Are there any drivers out there that don't play nice with sysfs? If so, should a mention of them be added to http://kerneljanitors.org/TODO ? --==_Exmh_1128490557_2752P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 iD8DBQFDQ2Y9cC3lWbTT17ARAtr+AKD0QTbMdvgrNyqu+qIWVSN5QOshFACfVX6Z m6obBzLt4FEeTbei8fCyR9I= =HnXY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1128490557_2752P-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/