Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S965090AbVJEJ5J (ORCPT ); Wed, 5 Oct 2005 05:57:09 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S965091AbVJEJ5J (ORCPT ); Wed, 5 Oct 2005 05:57:09 -0400 Received: from free.hands.com ([83.142.228.128]:62370 "EHLO free.hands.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S965090AbVJEJ5I (ORCPT ); Wed, 5 Oct 2005 05:57:08 -0400 Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 10:56:53 +0100 From: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton To: Nikita Danilov Cc: Marc Perkel , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: what's next for the linux kernel? Message-ID: <20051005095653.GK10538@lkcl.net> References: <20051002204703.GG6290@lkcl.net> <4342DC4D.8090908@perkel.com> <200510050122.39307.dhazelton@enter.net> <4343694F.5000709@perkel.com> <17219.39868.493728.141642@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <17219.39868.493728.141642@gargle.gargle.HOWL> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i X-hands-com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: lkcl@lkcl.net Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1244 Lines: 38 On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 01:24:12PM +0400, Nikita Danilov wrote: > Marc Perkel writes: > > [...] > > > Right - that's Unix "inside the box" thinking. The idea is to make the > > operating system smarter so that the user doesn't have to deal with > > what's computer friendly - but reather what makes sense to the user. > > From a user's perspective if you have not rights to access a file then > > why should you be allowed to delete it? > > Because in Unix a name is not an attribute of a file. there is no excuse. selinux has already provided an alternative that is similar to NW file permissions. so there is no excuse. think about this. in what way is it possible for linux to fully support the NTFS filesystem? bearing in mind that you will need to communicate a little bit more than, but the direct equivalent of unix uid gid and secondary groups, from userspace into kernelspace - just like reading /etc/passwd but instead reading from a userspace daemon. l. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/