Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932588AbVJEKah (ORCPT ); Wed, 5 Oct 2005 06:30:37 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932589AbVJEKah (ORCPT ); Wed, 5 Oct 2005 06:30:37 -0400 Received: from moraine.clusterfs.com ([66.96.26.190]:47080 "EHLO moraine.clusterfs.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932588AbVJEKag (ORCPT ); Wed, 5 Oct 2005 06:30:36 -0400 From: Nikita Danilov MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17219.43860.610103.628963@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 14:30:44 +0400 To: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton Cc: Marc Perkel , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: what's next for the linux kernel? In-Reply-To: <20051005095653.GK10538@lkcl.net> References: <20051002204703.GG6290@lkcl.net> <4342DC4D.8090908@perkel.com> <200510050122.39307.dhazelton@enter.net> <4343694F.5000709@perkel.com> <17219.39868.493728.141642@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20051005095653.GK10538@lkcl.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (patch 17) "chayote" (+CVS-20040321) XEmacs Lucid Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1131 Lines: 30 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton writes: > On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 01:24:12PM +0400, Nikita Danilov wrote: > > > Marc Perkel writes: > > > > [...] > > > > > Right - that's Unix "inside the box" thinking. The idea is to make the > > > operating system smarter so that the user doesn't have to deal with > > > what's computer friendly - but reather what makes sense to the user. > > > From a user's perspective if you have not rights to access a file then > > > why should you be allowed to delete it? > > > > Because in Unix a name is not an attribute of a file. > > there is no excuse. > > selinux has already provided an alternative that is similar to NW > file permissions. That's exactly the point: Unix file system model is more flexible than alternatives. So that one can emulate foreign semantics on top of it. But not other way around. Nikita. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/