Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1030199AbVJEQG4 (ORCPT ); Wed, 5 Oct 2005 12:06:56 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1030203AbVJEQG4 (ORCPT ); Wed, 5 Oct 2005 12:06:56 -0400 Received: from imag.imag.fr ([129.88.30.1]:3748 "EHLO imag.imag.fr") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1030199AbVJEQGz (ORCPT ); Wed, 5 Oct 2005 12:06:55 -0400 Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 18:06:45 +0200 From: Pierre Michon To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: freebox possible GPL violation Message-ID: <20051005160645.GA1295@linux.ensimag.fr> Reply-To: 20051005154923.GA14366@snarc.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040722i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (imag.imag.fr [129.88.30.1]); Wed, 05 Oct 2005 18:06:45 +0200 (CEST) X-IMAG-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-IMAG-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1647 Lines: 41 >> Why does it need to reboot when there is a new firmware ? >To use it, exactly like when you reboot your pc to change kernels. Yes but in this case you have just rebooted. It is like when you reboot to change your kernel, the new kernel notice it is newer and reboot... If it has an external firmware in the adsl chips for downloading the linux kernel, why after you download the new linux firmware, you need to reboot ? I forgot to say that in case of a new firmware, you can see the upload (and flash ?) of the new firmware with ____,----- symbol on led. See step 6 of [1]. So why in case a new firmware you need to wait more time (about 10 second) that the case where there not new firmware ? >> How they manage to download the firmware (need led driver, ppp, http, >> adsl driver, atm stack, ...) >How do you think some random network card with do netbooting works ? >(got a led driver, ipv4 simplified "stack", dhcp & tftp capabilities) >Just like your pc has a BIOS to search for booting devices Adsl is far more complex than ethernet... >> Please suggest other mailling lists. >the one you CC at first @lists.gpl-violations.org and only this one ... Ok, let's continue on this mailling list. Register is needed to post, but I think it is worth to continue, to clarify how works the freebox and some wrong assuptions. Pierre [1] http://forums.grenouille.com/index.php?showtopic=14659 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/