Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1030348AbVJEToe (ORCPT ); Wed, 5 Oct 2005 15:44:34 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1030349AbVJEToe (ORCPT ); Wed, 5 Oct 2005 15:44:34 -0400 Received: from 10.ctyme.com ([69.50.231.10]:1951 "EHLO newton.ctyme.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1030348AbVJETo1 (ORCPT ); Wed, 5 Oct 2005 15:44:27 -0400 Message-ID: <43442D19.4050005@perkel.com> Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 12:44:25 -0700 From: Marc Perkel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.10) Gecko/20050716 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Florin Malita CC: lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca, nix@esperi.org.uk, 7eggert@gmx.de, lkcl@lkcl.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: what's next for the linux kernel? References: <4TiWy-4HQ-3@gated-at.bofh.it> <4U0XH-3Gp-39@gated-at.bofh.it> <87k6gsjalu.fsf@amaterasu.srvr.nix> <4343E611.1000901@perkel.com> <20051005144441.GC8011@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> <4343E7AC.6000607@perkel.com> <20051005153727.994c4709.fmalita@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20051005153727.994c4709.fmalita@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamfilter-host: newton.ctyme.com - http://www.junkemailfilter.com" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1200 Lines: 39 Florin Malita wrote: >On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 07:48:12 -0700 >Marc Perkel wrote: > > >>What is incredibly idiotic is a file system that allws you to delete >>files that you have no write access to. That is stupid beyond belief and >>only the Unix community doesn't get it. >> >> > >It stops being idiotic as soon as you realize that _deleting_ a >file doesn't involve _writing_ to it in any way. It's not about UNIX, >it's about common sense - try thinking outside of the Netware box for a >sec ;) > >Florin > > What you don't get is that if you don't have rights to write to a file then you shouldn't have the right to delete the file. Once you get past the "inside the box" Unix thinking you'll see the logic in this. So what if the process of deleting a file involves writing to it. That's not relevant. -- Marc Perkel - marc@perkel.com Spam Filter: http://www.junkemailfilter.com My Blog: http://marc.perkel.com - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/