Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1030453AbVJFAFz (ORCPT ); Wed, 5 Oct 2005 20:05:55 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1030455AbVJFAFz (ORCPT ); Wed, 5 Oct 2005 20:05:55 -0400 Received: from embla.aitel.hist.no ([158.38.50.22]:37858 "HELO embla.aitel.hist.no") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1030453AbVJFAFy (ORCPT ); Wed, 5 Oct 2005 20:05:54 -0400 Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 02:07:41 +0200 To: Emmanuel Fleury Cc: Arjan van de Ven , Linux Kernel ML Subject: Re: freebox possible GPL violation Message-ID: <20051006000741.GC18080@aitel.hist.no> References: <20051005111329.GA31087@linux.ensimag.fr> <4343B779.8030200@cs.aau.dk> <1128511676.2920.19.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <4343BB04.7090204@cs.aau.dk> <1128513584.2920.23.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <4343C0DB.9080506@cs.aau.dk> <1128514062.2920.27.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <4343C73E.9000507@cs.aau.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4343C73E.9000507@cs.aau.dk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: Helge Hafting Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1502 Lines: 36 On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 02:29:50PM +0200, Emmanuel Fleury wrote: > Arjan van de Ven wrote: [...] > > they don't do a) > > > > they don't do b) > > > > c) is only for noncommerial distribution (not the case here) and only if > > they got it in a type b) before, eg it allows you to transfer a type b) > > in the non-commerical case. > > First, it is very arguable to say that they are "distributing" the > software as it does not comes with the FreeBox but is automatically > downloaded at each boot through the DSLAM network (which the user is not > supposed to know about). If the box downloads a linux kernel through the DSLAM network, then someone is clearly distributing linux kernels through the DSLAM network. I would guess it is the same guys, because relying on someone else providing them with kernels is a risky business. But whoever is on the other end of the DSLAM net have to offer the source as well, because they _are_ distributing kernels. The fact that the user isn't supposed to know how this box work doesn't change anything, of course. The GPL says those who distribute the work - it doesn't matter that they don't tell the customer that they're given a linux kernel. They still have to offer the source if asked. Helge Hafting - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/