Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751202AbVJFBDZ (ORCPT ); Wed, 5 Oct 2005 21:03:25 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751206AbVJFBDY (ORCPT ); Wed, 5 Oct 2005 21:03:24 -0400 Received: from mxfep02.bredband.com ([195.54.107.73]:22725 "EHLO mxfep02.bredband.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751202AbVJFBDY (ORCPT ); Wed, 5 Oct 2005 21:03:24 -0400 Message-ID: <434479E9.1040704@stesmi.com> Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 03:12:09 +0200 From: Stefan Smietanowski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Lang CC: Helge Hafting , Emmanuel Fleury , Arjan van de Ven , Linux Kernel ML Subject: Re: freebox possible GPL violation References: <20051005111329.GA31087@linux.ensimag.fr> <4343B779.8030200@cs.aau.dk> <1128511676.2920.19.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <4343BB04.7090204@cs.aau.dk> <1128513584.2920.23.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <4343C0DB.9080506@cs.aau.dk> <1128514062.2920.27.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <4343C73E.9000507@cs.aau.dk> <20051006000741.GC18080@aitel.hist.no> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiVirus: checked by Vexira Milter 1.0.7; VAE 6.29.0.5; VDF 6.29.0.100 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1734 Lines: 46 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >> If the box downloads a linux kernel through the DSLAM network, then >> someone is clearly distributing linux kernels through the DSLAM network. >> I would guess it is the same guys, because relying on someone else >> providing >> them with kernels is a risky business. But whoever is on the other end >> of the DSLAM net have to offer the source as well, because they _are_ >> distributing kernels. >> >> The fact that the user isn't supposed to know how this box work >> doesn't change anything, of course. The GPL says those who >> distribute the work - it doesn't matter that they don't tell the >> customer that they're given a linux kernel. They still have to offer >> the source if asked. > > > the argument that they are making is that they are only moveing the > kernel within their own companies equipment, and therefor it doesn't > count as 'distribution' > > agree with this argument or not, but please acknowledge this point of > view rather then pretending that they have no argument at all and are > just plain refusing. > > David Lang > If one turns it on, doesn't turn it off, pays the 400 EUR and as a result OWNS it, then what one has is a box that at that point in time is running Linux and one is the owner of it. // Stefan -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (MingW32) iD8DBQFDRHnpBrn2kJu9P78RApviAJ9AwjF8wU+6ao/L61AC7xW/QSBRZwCaA9u1 yDDXxWQ/0MHeAS7pSg4C4rg= =oLR8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/