Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1750879AbVJFNId (ORCPT ); Thu, 6 Oct 2005 09:08:33 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1750884AbVJFNId (ORCPT ); Thu, 6 Oct 2005 09:08:33 -0400 Received: from smtp.cs.aau.dk ([130.225.194.6]:62952 "EHLO smtp.cs.aau.dk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750879AbVJFNIc (ORCPT ); Thu, 6 Oct 2005 09:08:32 -0400 Message-ID: <4345215B.7060708@cs.aau.dk> Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 15:06:35 +0200 From: Emmanuel Fleury User-Agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051001) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: freebox possible GPL violation References: <20051006120135.GA1002@linux.ensimag.fr> In-Reply-To: <20051006120135.GA1002@linux.ensimag.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1923 Lines: 52 Pierre Michon wrote: > >>I might have misunderstood but I think that if you buy the hardware you >>cannot connect it to the DSLAM network anymore. So that only the boxes >>they own are connected to the DSLAM. > > Again have you any proof that there aren't any Linux firmware in the > flash of the freebox ? Helloooo !!! Have you proofs that they have ??? You're always assuming the worst from Free, this is really starting to be annoying. Just stick to the FACTS and if you want to argue on something, bring PROOFS ! And even if it was the case, you missed the point here, if they own the Freebox their point is that they are using Linux for "internal use" only. >>Are you sure this point has been clarified in court in the past ? >>If not, I would bet on it (for the specific case of settop boxes). > > For french law I don't know, but someone on gpl-violation this is true > for de and au. Nonsense, you are talking about cases of softwares which were sold to customers with GPL code inside. This is no such case here. >>I mentioned in another mail the case of a mobile phone network >>infrastructure where the network nodes to which mobile phones are >>connecting are running Linux. It seems to be an "internal use" (as it >>never leak out of the company network) and yet providing a service to >>customers. > > No the freebox is more like a dvb box that is lended by a satellite > provider and could do firmware update via satellite. > > I don't know if there are similar case for dvb box. You obviously need a brain, try to get one and come back after you learned to use it. Regards -- Emmanuel Fleury Shut up and hack ! -- Theo de Raadt (OpenBSD Hackaton) - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/