Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751054AbVJFOrx (ORCPT ); Thu, 6 Oct 2005 10:47:53 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751056AbVJFOrx (ORCPT ); Thu, 6 Oct 2005 10:47:53 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.203]:19543 "EHLO wproxy.gmail.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751021AbVJFOrw (ORCPT ); Thu, 6 Oct 2005 10:47:52 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:organization:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=l8ji+Zv7vnV6VXRA+AAJCIKYS8TJtAVs2TCIR3hReL8nN8CdCD4mpImS1bk2pQL69fQY1u+TV80hQAVapGezrAi6FzSZnNZDRDSROtqxyy1q06yb2Ow6T83CjjP6OT7/eZHqfOhe36ECDTqdVwKpcDtv352/Ars7P9MKSoiO8Fk= Message-ID: <43453946.3000901@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 17:48:38 +0300 From: Matan Peled Reply-To: chaosite@gmail.com Organization: Chaosite Destruction, inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.7.10) Gecko/20050822 Thunderbird/1.0.6 Mnenhy/0.7.2.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Poole CC: Emmanuel Fleury , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: freebox possible GPL violation References: <20051006120135.GA1002@linux.ensimag.fr> <4345215B.7060708@cs.aau.dk> <87zmpm227e.fsf@sanosuke.troilus.org> In-Reply-To: <87zmpm227e.fsf@sanosuke.troilus.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.0.0 OpenPGP: id=D6F42CA5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1980 Lines: 49 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Michael Poole wrote: > In the US, the law (17 USC 106) is very clear that renting, lending, > and leasing are "distribution" that is a protected right. The Berne > Convention says the same in article 11bis (remember that a later > revision explicitly included computer programs in "literary works"). > Do you think this interpretation of "distribution" does not apply to > Free? If not, why not? The argument seems to be that you're paying for the service, and not the box, and that the box is owned by Free and therefore no distribution occurs here, as the kernel moves from Free to Free. The obvious example is web servers, where you aren't distributing anything (at least not the server software) and still providing service. The difference here is that the box is physically at the customer's house, which could be considered "lending", but IANAL. Anyway, I guess you'll have to ask a (preferably French) lawyer to find out. BTW, the whole thing about the kernel being in ROM or RAM or whatever and how it got there are moot - its still running Linux. And if lending is distribution, then they need to offer the source code. FYI: Needing to reboot to change firmware makes sense, and those 10 extra seconds might involve upgrading the proprietary firmware... But thats irrelevant. - -- [Name ] :: [Matan I. Peled ] [Location ] :: [Israel ] [Public Key] :: [0xD6F42CA5 ] [Keyserver ] :: [keyserver.kjsl.com] encrypted/signed plain text preferred -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDRTlGA7Qvptb0LKURAs9iAJ9NKgLPDkUl/BBeAMJBot0PGzIDBwCfY/SS pxRwgjqVPlasdIPTG/kvp6U= =uAEf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/