Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932310AbVJQQBq (ORCPT ); Mon, 17 Oct 2005 12:01:46 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932313AbVJQQBq (ORCPT ); Mon, 17 Oct 2005 12:01:46 -0400 Received: from ns1.suse.de ([195.135.220.2]:51897 "EHLO mx1.suse.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932310AbVJQQBp (ORCPT ); Mon, 17 Oct 2005 12:01:45 -0400 From: Andi Kleen To: Muli Ben-Yehuda Subject: Re: x86_64: 2.6.14-rc4 swiotlb broken Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:02:09 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 Cc: Linus Torvalds , Andrew Morton , Ravikiran G Thirumalai , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, discuss@x86-64.org, tglx@linutronix.de, shai@scalex86.org References: <20051017093654.GA7652@localhost.localdomain> <200510171740.57614.ak@suse.de> <20051017155613.GF21783@granada.merseine.nu> In-Reply-To: <20051017155613.GF21783@granada.merseine.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510171802.09708.ak@suse.de> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1264 Lines: 29 On Monday 17 October 2005 17:56, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 05:40:56PM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote: > > First this problem is definitely not critical. AFAIK it only happens on > > scalex's unreleased machines. Intel NUMA x86 machines are really rare > > and on AMD it doesn't happen because the swiotlb is not used there. > > It's not used by default, but there are cases where it's used and it > would be a shame to release a major kernel and knowingly break > them. For example, any setup that used iommu_force or any non-AMD > x86-64 machine with more than 4GB of memory and only 32-bit capable > DMA devices. ... but risk breaking other stuff. Unless you can get the ARM and/or IA64 people to do some retesting with the proposed fixes it's quite risky. Sometimes you have to make compromises before releases. > Another alternative is to temporarily > provide a different version of swiotlb_init() for x86-64 and IA64 - > I can whip up a patch if that's acceptable. I don't want that. -Andi - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/