Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751371AbVJVRji (ORCPT ); Sat, 22 Oct 2005 13:39:38 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751369AbVJVRji (ORCPT ); Sat, 22 Oct 2005 13:39:38 -0400 Received: from web31807.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.207.70]:15969 "HELO web31807.mail.mud.yahoo.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1751366AbVJVRjh (ORCPT ); Sat, 22 Oct 2005 13:39:37 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=F92f7tde0erbUnafVPB34eQoEmqvWErgqwl1xCF4EY9bImbfwHtUvW8p6k7iFstyFza91DOLpyfDhHJ3Cwva9zJF+RniCHs6NEgsou1o+0DZOSPZ4ppqcjCXFbkMYMgFBaOjSanTF/ICFSkXb42zbUPmivVV7gcOg0XXmVsb56Q= ; Message-ID: <20051022173936.26998.qmail@web31807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 10:39:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Luben Tuikov Reply-To: ltuikov@yahoo.com Subject: Re: ioctls, etc. (was Re: [PATCH 1/4] sas: add flag for locally attachedPHYs) To: David Lang , Stefan Richter Cc: linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, Linux Kernel , Jeff Garzik , Luben Tuikov , andrew.patterson@hp.com, Christoph Hellwig , "Moore, Eric Dean" , jejb@steeleye.com, Linus Torvalds In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1824 Lines: 43 --- David Lang wrote: > Stefan, what you and Luben are missing is that big-bang changes like you > are proposing are simply not acceptable anymore. Take a look at the link below, working SAS code with the current kernel. No one is trying to produce big-bang changes. This is what Jeff want's you to believe that I'm trying to do -- this is part of his political game and FUD and apparently he's succeeding. I repeat: no on is trying to produce a new "big-bang changes" as you call them. See the working code in the link at my sig. This is _current_ Linus's tree with SAS Stack in it. Don't yield to the FUD. > This is what Jeff is trying to tell you. you can't just produce an > entirely new SCSI subsystem and drop it into the kernel one day, you can No, this is what he wants you to believe that I'm trying to do. This is what people start doing when they loose on technological ground. Do not yield to the FUD and politics. See the working code of current Linus's tree with SAS in it in my sig link. I repeat, no one is trying to replace anything or throw anything out. This is just FUD and politics which Jeff is spreading because he's got an agenda in convincing certain people certain things. See the working SAS code in the link below -- current Linus' tree with SAS in it. Soon enough it would contain SDI back-end and then HP and LSI would be able to plug right in, and I think there's an engineer out there who's already implemented a front end. Luben -- http://linux.adaptec.com/sas/ http://www.adaptec.com/sas/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/