Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751379AbVJXXLN (ORCPT ); Mon, 24 Oct 2005 19:11:13 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751378AbVJXXLN (ORCPT ); Mon, 24 Oct 2005 19:11:13 -0400 Received: from einhorn.in-berlin.de ([192.109.42.8]:8154 "EHLO einhorn.in-berlin.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751376AbVJXXLM (ORCPT ); Mon, 24 Oct 2005 19:11:12 -0400 X-Envelope-From: stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de Message-ID: <435D69B5.5000809@s5r6.in-berlin.de> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 01:09:41 +0200 From: Stefan Richter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040914 X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Lang , linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, Linux Kernel CC: Christoph Hellwig , Jeff Garzik , Luben Tuikov , andrew.patterson@hp.com, Christoph Hellwig , "Moore, Eric Dean" , jejb@steeleye.com, Linus Torvalds Subject: Re: ioctls, etc. (was Re: [PATCH 1/4] sas: add flag for locally attachedPHYs) References: dlang@dlang.diginsite.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: (-0.41) AWL,BAYES_40 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1214 Lines: 29 David Lang wrote: > Stefan, > we are supposed to be on a 2-month release cycle, with all major > changes going in in the first two weeks of that cycle. This timeframe > doesn't leave you any noticable time to implement your steps seperatly > (and zero testing between them). as a result, in practice your proposal > amounts to a big-bang approach, and/or results in releases that are > known-broken. Experimental branches of subsystems usually cannot (nor need to) be bound to a release cycle. > and while you suggest putting this in -mm, remember that the -mm kernel > needs to be useable so that people can test it, and it is on the same > schedule as the main kernel so again you can't have known-broken things > (of this scale) there either. I assumed there would be a few unmaintained bits (of marginal "scale") left which could not be updated, but it seems now that won't be the case. -- Stefan Richter -=====-=-=-= =-=- ==--= http://arcgraph.de/sr/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/