Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 20:49:51 +0100
From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@osdl.org
Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] schedule obsolete OSS drivers for removal
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On Sun, Oct 30, 2005 at 08:35:49PM +0100, Andi Kleen wrote:
> On Sunday 30 October 2005 19:38, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> 
> > ???
> > 
> > $ ls -la sound/oss/i810_audio.o sound/pci/intel8x0.o
> > -rw-rw-r--  1 bunk bunk 38056 2005-10-30 13:43 sound/oss/i810_audio.o
> > -rw-rw-r--  1 bunk bunk 34344 2005-10-30 13:44 sound/pci/intel8x0.o
> > $ 
> > 
> > The general decision for the OSS -> ALSA move was long ago.
> 
> If you compare the complete size of ALSA+driver vs OSS+driver then
> OSS wins easily on the bloat department.

If this is your problem then you should have vetoed the inclusion of 
ALSA into the kernel.

> > If you have a real issue with the ALSA driver please submit a proper 
> > bug report to the ALSA bug tracking system and tell me the bug number.
> 
> Avoiding bloat is a real issue.

OK, what is your plan to make ALSA non-bloated?

E.g. it's clear that unused code or unused EXPORT_SYMBOL's in the kernel 
are bloat, so I am working on eliminating such bloat.

If you consider ALSA too bloated you should help on solving this issue 
instead of insisting on keeping OSS.

> -Andi

cu
Adrian

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       "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
        of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
       "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
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