Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 22:45:25 +0000
From: Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: ak@suse.de, torvalds@osdl.org, tony.luck@gmail.com,
       paolo.ciarrocchi@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: New (now current development process)
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On Sun, Oct 30, 2005 at 02:31:03PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 30, 2005 at 11:12:41AM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Oct 30, 2005 at 12:29:28AM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > > > > Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org> writes:
> > > > > > I don't think anybody has been really unhappy with this approach? Hmm?
> > > > > 
> > > > > The long freeze periods were nothing much happens are painful. It
> > > > > would be better to have some more overlap of merging and stabilizing
> > > > > (stable does that already kind of, but not enough)
> > > > 
> > > > Violently agree.  I find the long freeze periods painful and very very
> > > > very boring, to the point of looking for other stuff to do (such as
> > > > cleaning up bits of the kernel and queuing mega-patches for the next
> > > > round of merging.)
> > > 
> > > The freezes are for fixing bugs, especially recent regressions.
> > 
> > Given my stated low activity during the -rc periods, well, you draw
> > your conclusion from that.
> > 
> > > There's no shortage of them, you know.
> > 
> > Please let me know when there's something in my area regresses.
> > 
> 
> a) you're sitting around feeling very very very bored while
> 
> b) the kernel is in long freeze due to the lack of kernel developer
>    attention to known bugs
> 
> The solution seems fairly obvious to me?

That's fine if you have the hardware to be able to debug these issues.

-- 
Russell King
 Linux kernel    2.6 ARM Linux   - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
 maintainer of:  2.6 Serial core
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