Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751495AbVKBEtV (ORCPT ); Tue, 1 Nov 2005 23:49:21 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751496AbVKBEtV (ORCPT ); Tue, 1 Nov 2005 23:49:21 -0500 Received: from dvhart.com ([64.146.134.43]:21418 "EHLO localhost.localdomain") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751495AbVKBEtU (ORCPT ); Tue, 1 Nov 2005 23:49:20 -0500 Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 20:49:25 -0800 From: "Martin J. Bligh" Reply-To: "Martin J. Bligh" To: Al Viro , Andi Kleen , Andrew Morton Cc: "Theodore Ts'o" , Linus Torvalds , Tony Luck , Paolo Ciarrocchi , linux kernel mailing list Subject: Re: New (now current development process) Message-ID: <218950000.1130906965@[10.10.2.4]> In-Reply-To: <20051031001810.GQ7992@ftp.linux.org.uk> References: <4d8e3fd30510291026x611aa715pc1a153e706e70bc2@mail.gmail.com> <20051030213221.GA28020@thunk.org> <200510310145.43663.ak@suse.de> <20051031001810.GQ7992@ftp.linux.org.uk> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.2.1 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1267 Lines: 30 --Al Viro wrote (on Monday, October 31, 2005 00:18:10 +0000): > On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 01:45:43AM +0100, Andi Kleen wrote: >> The problem is that -mm* contains typically so many more or less >> broken changes that any extensive work on there is futile >> because you never know whose bugs you're debugging >> (and if the patch that is broken will even make it anywhere) >> >> In short mainline is frozen too long and -mm* is too unstable. > > Besides, -mm is changing so fscking fast that it doesn't build on a lot > of configs most of the time. And trying to keep track of it and at least > deal with build breakage at real time is, IME, hopeless. To be fair, it's been a lot better the last month than it has the 2 before that, when it was really pretty scary. If it helps, we can try to build a wider range of configs to test. And I can try to hook Andrew up with something he can do a quick compile-farm test on before release (though I think he has his own battery of stuff). M. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/