Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 21:04:52 -0800
From: "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@mbligh.org>
Reply-To: "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@mbligh.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
Cc: ak@suse.de, rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk, torvalds@osdl.org,
       tony.luck@gmail.com, paolo.ciarrocchi@gmail.com,
       linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: New (now current development process)
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> That's what I was thinking ;)
> 
> The simple fact is that we have more developers doing more stuff faster
> than they used to.  All within a coupled system which has a lot of
> interactions.
> 
> End result: yes, we do all need to spend more time looking at other
> people's code and less time looking at our own.  That's just life in a
> large project.
> 
> I'm very careful to make sure that relevant developers are copied on
> patches which go into -mm.  In fact there's significantly better review
> opportunity on patches which go developer->mm->Linus than there are on
> patches which go developer->maintainer-git->Linus.

Moreover, it's fairly easy to test stuff that's all in one place, in a
consistent format, with a simple linear stack of patches to sort through 
to find culprits.

Plus you have a great tendency of dropping stuff like a stone when it's
broken, which helps a lot. Having some basic pre-mainline-merge testing
keeps the quality of mainline way up.

It'd help more if people focused more on testing their own shit before
submitting it than complaining about -mm. If it's the same people breaking 
the tree all the time, I'm sure we can find a recycled set of stocks 
somewhere.

M.

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