Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751183AbVKEOee (ORCPT ); Sat, 5 Nov 2005 09:34:34 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751228AbVKEOee (ORCPT ); Sat, 5 Nov 2005 09:34:34 -0500 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.202]:27154 "EHLO zproxy.gmail.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751183AbVKEOed convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Sat, 5 Nov 2005 09:34:33 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=l4E3714dYNkYgBclLT/7pc9fDfZ7WTgDJRNkQUh2pmZOClDLe/LY/JEpYay5Ci498byTeEcrUgfXGyYZEdsUCJhEAOVz1Bb5dP6GakJDaLQKWEhGPVb5laU6nKr6Wk3T1YfbShqmodSTpnxli7RZqQ9iGod9NDpWhrRZKiR2HGY= Message-ID: <9a8748490511050634g8d19652w8148a3db4e3e11b2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 15:34:33 +0100 From: Jesper Juhl To: Edgar Hucek Subject: Re: New Linux Development Model Cc: Jean Delvare , LKML In-Reply-To: <436CB162.5070100@ed-soft.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Disposition: inline References: <436C7E77.3080601@ed-soft.at> <20051105122958.7a2cd8c6.khali@linux-fr.org> <436CB162.5070100@ed-soft.at> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1760 Lines: 46 On 11/5/05, Edgar Hucek wrote: > Hi. > > Sorry for not posting my Name. > > Maybe you don't understand what i wanted to say or it's my bad english. > The ipw2200 driver was only an example. I had also problems with, vmware, > unionfs... > What i mean ist, that kernel developers make incompatible changes to the > header > files, change structures, interfaces and so on. Which makes the kernel > releases > incompatible. > There are several reasons why modules are not in the mainline kernel and > will never > get there. So saying, bring modules to the kernel is wrong. > The right way would be to take care of defined interfaces, header files, > and so on. > Otherwise you could only say the kernel 2.6.14 is only compatible to > 2.6.14.X and > you there is no stable 2.6 mainline kernel. > I think it's also no task for the user, to search the net why external > driver xyz not > works with a new kernel ( because of incompatibilties ). Basicly in new > kernel there > could be a chance for the user a driver works better, because a bug was > fixed in the > kernel. > Hopefully this time it's more clear why i blame the development process > and i'm a > so frustrated linux user. > There is a very simple solution to your problem. Use the kernels provided by your distribution and not the kernel.org kernels. -- Jesper Juhl Don't top-post http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/T/top-post.html Plain text mails only, please http://www.expita.com/nomime.html - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/