Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932345AbVKFKws (ORCPT ); Sun, 6 Nov 2005 05:52:48 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932351AbVKFKws (ORCPT ); Sun, 6 Nov 2005 05:52:48 -0500 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.199]:1571 "EHLO zproxy.gmail.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932345AbVKFKwr convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Sun, 6 Nov 2005 05:52:47 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=HSRVwDJd2nbFZ8SieYSngupsMCUGO/SWOBSBl1wpr22MiFYsl7v9AQROmBF7hbYmtyD9yLBndzTS/Fjci1QI7AICyF5c5OblcUo/0o/wqklC1KpkYPCsOF5DvmdyPcuAkUE4waRBVrv8sHSZ4+a9GoTfW2OSjjEXcODYyaZwWjk= Message-ID: <5a2cf1f60511060252t55e1a058o528700ea69826965@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 11:52:47 +0100 From: jerome lacoste To: Edgar Hucek Subject: Re: New Linux Development Model Cc: Jean Delvare , LKML In-Reply-To: <436CB162.5070100@ed-soft.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Disposition: inline References: <436C7E77.3080601@ed-soft.at> <20051105122958.7a2cd8c6.khali@linux-fr.org> <436CB162.5070100@ed-soft.at> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1536 Lines: 40 On 11/5/05, Edgar Hucek wrote: > Hi. > > Sorry for not posting my Name. > > Maybe you don't understand what i wanted to say or it's my bad english. > The ipw2200 driver was only an example. I had also problems with, vmware, > unionfs... > What i mean ist, that kernel developers make incompatible changes to the > header > files, change structures, interfaces and so on. Which makes the kernel > releases > incompatible. I will ask you just one question: as a user, why did you want to upgrade your kernel? On a server you want stability. So you don't upgrade. On a desktop, there are probably a bunch of out of kernel modules that will need upgrading with each new kernel modules. Just on the laptop I am using right now, I will have to upgrade the vmware bridge, nvidia driver, madwifi wireless driver, etc. And that's normal. The new development model didn't change that. I avoid touching my kernel on boxes I do real work with. I do build a new kernel for test purposes and to give feedback if there's an issue. But most of the time I skip 2-3 versions before finding a very compelling reason to upgrade. And I stick with my distribution kernel as much as I can. As for kernel/drivers developers, it's another story. If it ain't broken, don't fix it. Jerome - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/