Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 04:13:26 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 04:13:16 -0400 Received: from [195.66.192.167] ([195.66.192.167]:59147 "EHLO Port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 04:13:00 -0400 Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 11:12:16 +0200 From: VDA X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.44) Reply-To: VDA Organization: IMTP X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1049487201.20011004111216@port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua> To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Bloatware (was Re: Security question: "Text file busy"...) In-Reply-To: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Thursday, October 04, 2001, 8:15:01 AM, ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman) wrote: EWB> I have days when I'm frustrated by the size of both glibc and the EWB> linux kernel. stripped both the linux kernel and glibc are comparable EWB> in size. Though I think the 400KB of compressed glibc-2.1.2 is EWB> actually smaller than the kernel for the most part. I have to strip EWB> off practically everthing to get a useable bzImage under 400KB. EWB> So any good ideas on how to get the size of linux down? I think code quality priorities are: 1. Features If a program misses some very useful (or even vital) feature, there's not much sense in using it. 2. Stability Nobody likes when program (or server) hangs/crashes. 3. Speed Developers usually have fast machines with big disks, so they really like to see progs work fast. 4. Size As you see, size isn't a top prio. It's sad, but we can't have all these objectives met with same level of success. However, Linux isn't that bad compared to Win2K nightmare. And please let's not start a longish discussion on this. Please. A contest to cut the most kbytes without loss of features/speed from kernel/glibs/X/... is much more productive. :-) If you can't resist, may I suggest private mail, not lkml -- Best regards, VDA mailto:VDA@port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/