Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S964843AbVKGPbs (ORCPT ); Mon, 7 Nov 2005 10:31:48 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S964844AbVKGPbs (ORCPT ); Mon, 7 Nov 2005 10:31:48 -0500 Received: from pentafluge.infradead.org ([213.146.154.40]:42447 "EHLO pentafluge.infradead.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S964843AbVKGPbr (ORCPT ); Mon, 7 Nov 2005 10:31:47 -0500 Subject: Re: 3D video card recommendations From: Arjan van de Ven To: Toon van der Pas Cc: Steven Rostedt , LKML In-Reply-To: <20051107152009.GA20807@shuttle.vanvergehaald.nl> References: <1131112605.14381.34.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1131349343.2858.11.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <1131367371.14381.91.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20051107152009.GA20807@shuttle.vanvergehaald.nl> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 16:31:36 +0100 Message-Id: <1131377496.2858.21.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-2.fc4) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 2.9 (++) X-Spam-Report: SpamAssassin version 3.0.4 on pentafluge.infradead.org summary: Content analysis details: (2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.1 RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL RBL: SORBS: sent directly from dynamic IP address [80.57.133.107 listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net] 2.8 RCVD_IN_DSBL RBL: Received via a relay in list.dsbl.org [] X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by pentafluge.infradead.org See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1162 Lines: 27 On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 16:20 +0100, Toon van der Pas wrote: > On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 07:42:51AM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote: > > On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 08:42 +0100, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > > > 5) The vendor goes out of business and thus stops updating the driver > > > > MS folks would have the same problem. > > ...which proves the point Arjan is making. > > For one, I have an ISDN-adapter which doesn't work with any version of > MS-Windows from this millennium (no drivers available), while it's still > working great on current Linux kernels. well despite your post; the Windows people are a lot better at keeping old drivers working (win 9x to a NT based kernel was obviously a huge change though). In linux you can use an old driver maybe for 6 months if you're lucky.. in windows 6 years is no exception. So the problem is a lot bigger in linux for the owner of such a card than it is in windows. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/