Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S965352AbVKGRf2 (ORCPT ); Mon, 7 Nov 2005 12:35:28 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S965351AbVKGRf0 (ORCPT ); Mon, 7 Nov 2005 12:35:26 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03.nyroc.rr.com ([24.24.2.57]:22227 "EHLO ms-smtp-03.nyroc.rr.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S965305AbVKGRfX (ORCPT ); Mon, 7 Nov 2005 12:35:23 -0500 Subject: Re: 3D video card recommendations From: Steven Rostedt To: Arjan van de Ven Cc: Toon van der Pas , LKML In-Reply-To: <1131377496.2858.21.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> References: <1131112605.14381.34.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1131349343.2858.11.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <1131367371.14381.91.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20051107152009.GA20807@shuttle.vanvergehaald.nl> <1131377496.2858.21.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Kihon Technologies Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 12:35:06 -0500 Message-Id: <1131384906.14381.108.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1536 Lines: 36 On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 16:31 +0100, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 16:20 +0100, Toon van der Pas wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 07:42:51AM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote: > > > On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 08:42 +0100, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > > > > > 5) The vendor goes out of business and thus stops updating the driver > > > > > > MS folks would have the same problem. > > > > ...which proves the point Arjan is making. > > > > For one, I have an ISDN-adapter which doesn't work with any version of > > MS-Windows from this millennium (no drivers available), while it's still > > working great on current Linux kernels. > > > well despite your post; the Windows people are a lot better at keeping > old drivers working (win 9x to a NT based kernel was obviously a huge > change though). In linux you can use an old driver maybe for 6 months if > you're lucky.. in windows 6 years is no exception. So the problem is a > lot bigger in linux for the owner of such a card than it is in windows. > Only if the Linux driver is closed source. Otherwise, the driver should be upgraded with the kernel. Most all open source hardware drivers are already included in the kernel, and maintained as long as there's someone that has the device that can maintain it. -- Steve - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/