Received: by 2002:a25:4158:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id o85csp4862443yba; Tue, 30 Apr 2019 05:41:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyor8QRGH/DCuN9FFkkdybwOpbn5dLTp7OvLLZvcCVJLE0brwelwJLzBb4PPwF4rNEqR5yc X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:a50d:: with SMTP id s13mr68685795plq.58.1556628108722; Tue, 30 Apr 2019 05:41:48 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1556628108; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=p6hE2DrtTnEHaBSI6SpE3bv8fxzIws+/EpHsGZ6nhU/KRxMFppx8euk8SH/aBrWLzV NnBD2GNWpJu4/FzgOoEc3TMh0DI3Z8fBRlVmRQa/KEXnP0rf4cogMun1LAtfhcOH5r+t jdaTKDuITmjlgwAWTxl8Ytbx7V5m2g2+jRU7CQYeCpum8dhnJBn5z0K24CjI5mH8lmgS d0OdP2cA723H4wGOUOa7yh5aPVbkK+woBfcsB2EwOUm9F4hyLaI5sBMD0SKLU7hxkCr6 l46ZdINGjSUAIqwLSvU37XXFq5cEC4w1YyZv40qq3ILMzAgLt5rjW8XXOl8kqdN4HQ9J +/0A== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:user-agent:in-reply-to :content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id:subject:cc :to:from:date; bh=EeaNXTOOiHCoSPFrhK+MwbgkxiYIlVHThmE3TVnmJMY=; b=xfNwJ44OTUnFjmd9VERGqaG23AA7G+H7aiTHBPcA1wqjeydX/iQkPgBfpcgL3G0uY9 vIFW/PNIULwHkVEIVKpPbKhRdkyas81Yjn3gt5HyOMlz5g7U1+bB2mlMPNOCVTCpWKeP qFCjWZFa3/yHHsa1kZCF2AUyYQSDZE2itARxG3pY96PdRZC/PcAL7ZalSgfqu03TazOp 4TPi5uaEcJoXIUfNjEvKLk5j+iCacCB4oVDBAGdsZ6s4EECC5Qnzlw8Jnxy7gQf0Ep+F sBSPENIGMKe0fQpUJoyPLiXZbWHJPudjzFer6xVhzcS22F/mXQaCytH1iGmcq51kYl0f nq2g== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=redhat.com Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id m10si7044732pff.22.2019.04.30.05.41.33; Tue, 30 Apr 2019 05:41:48 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=redhat.com Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1728303AbfD3MjM (ORCPT + 99 others); Tue, 30 Apr 2019 08:39:12 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:39766 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1727469AbfD3MjL (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 Apr 2019 08:39:11 -0400 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx07.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.22]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C16833091786; Tue, 30 Apr 2019 12:39:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dhcp-27-174.brq.redhat.com (unknown [10.43.17.159]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C2301001E91; Tue, 30 Apr 2019 12:39:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dhcp-27-174.brq.redhat.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1000 oleg@redhat.com; Tue, 30 Apr 2019 14:39:08 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2019 14:39:01 +0200 From: Oleg Nesterov To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Jann Horn , Kevin Easton , Andy Lutomirski , Christian Brauner , Aleksa Sarai , "Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" , Al Viro , David Howells , Linux API , LKML , "Serge E. Hallyn" , Arnd Bergmann , "Eric W. Biederman" , Kees Cook , Thomas Gleixner , Michael Kerrisk , Andrew Morton , Joel Fernandes , Daniel Colascione Subject: Re: RFC: on adding new CLONE_* flags [WAS Re: [PATCH 0/4] clone: add CLONE_PIDFD] Message-ID: <20190430123901.GD23020@redhat.com> References: <20190414201436.19502-1-christian@brauner.io> <20190415195911.z7b7miwsj67ha54y@yavin> <20190420071406.GA22257@ip-172-31-15-78> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.84 on 10.5.11.22 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.41]); Tue, 30 Apr 2019 12:39:11 +0000 (UTC) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 04/29, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > Linux vfork() is very much a real vfork(). What do you mean? Yes, but I am wondering if man vfork should clarify what "child terminates" actually means. I mean, the child can do clone(CLONE_THREAD) + sys_exit(), this will wake the parent thread up before the child process exits or execs. I see nothing wrong, but I was always curious whether it was designed this way on purpose or not. Oleg.