Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S965149AbVKHWWz (ORCPT ); Tue, 8 Nov 2005 17:22:55 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S965227AbVKHWWz (ORCPT ); Tue, 8 Nov 2005 17:22:55 -0500 Received: from mtao02.charter.net ([209.225.8.187]:29664 "EHLO mtao02.charter.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S965149AbVKHWWy (ORCPT ); Tue, 8 Nov 2005 17:22:54 -0500 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAA+k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17265.9265.460229.523397@smtp.charter.net> Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 17:18:25 -0500 From: "John Stoffel" To: Matthias Andree Cc: LKML Subject: Re: 3D video card recommendations In-Reply-To: <20051108220853.GA26615@merlin.emma.line.org> References: <1131112605.14381.34.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1131349343.2858.11.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <1131367371.14381.91.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20051107152009.GA20807@shuttle.vanvergehaald.nl> <1131377496.2858.21.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <1131384906.14381.108.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20051108220853.GA26615@merlin.emma.line.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 21.4.1 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1368 Lines: 30 >>>>> "Matthias" == Matthias Andree writes: Matthias> I'd rather not count the drivers that have dropped out of Matthias> open source operating systems due to bit rot. If there is no Matthias> maintainer, the hardware will become useless sooner or Matthias> later. With Linux's rapidly changing "moving target" 2.6.X Matthias> I'd call it sooner rather than later. Matthias> OSS drivers are good iff there is a maintainer - IOW: to the Matthias> user, the maintainer makes the difference, not the driver Matthias> being open source. No, a publically available spec for the hardware is what makes the difference. Those drivers which are reverse engineered, or which have only partially open specs are the ones which bit-rot the fastest. For example, I've got a webcam which I've never been able to make work properly due to the PWC driver and the lack of documentation from Philips on the chipset. Even with heroic efforts by others, it's just hard to do. But if we have docs, we could support this camera until the end of time, as long as people were interested in supporting it. John - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/