Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S965327AbVKIRWb (ORCPT ); Wed, 9 Nov 2005 12:22:31 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1030536AbVKIRW3 (ORCPT ); Wed, 9 Nov 2005 12:22:29 -0500 Received: from clock-tower.bc.nu ([81.2.110.250]:12960 "EHLO lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932574AbVKIRWS (ORCPT ); Wed, 9 Nov 2005 12:22:18 -0500 Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/39] NLKD - Novell Linux Kernel Debugger From: Alan Cox To: Jeff Garzik Cc: Jan Beulich , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <43722AFC.4040709@pobox.com> References: <43720DAE.76F0.0078.0@novell.com> <43722AFC.4040709@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 17:53:05 +0000 Message-Id: <1131558785.6540.34.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-2.fc4) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 886 Lines: 21 On Mer, 2005-11-09 at 11:59 -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote: > Honestly, just seeing all these code changes makes me think we really > don't need it in the kernel. How many "early" and "alternative" gadgets > do we really need just for this thing? I think it is clearly the case that the design is wrong. The existance of kgdb shows how putting the complex logic remotely on another system is not only a lot cleaner and simpler but can also provide more functionality and higher reliability. The presence of user mode linux and Xen also provide solutions to the usual concern about needing two systems, as will future hardware features. Alan - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/