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Date:   Mon, 13 May 2019 17:37:52 +0100
From:   Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
To:     Nadav Amit <namit@vmware.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: mmu_gather: remove __tlb_reset_range() for force
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On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 09:11:38AM +0000, Nadav Amit wrote:
> > On May 13, 2019, at 1:36 AM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> > 
> > On Thu, May 09, 2019 at 09:21:35PM +0000, Nadav Amit wrote:
> > 
> >>>>> And we can fix that by having tlb_finish_mmu() sync up. Never let a
> >>>>> concurrent tlb_finish_mmu() complete until all concurrenct mmu_gathers
> >>>>> have completed.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> This should not be too hard to make happen.
> >>>> 
> >>>> This synchronization sounds much more expensive than what I proposed. But I
> >>>> agree that cache-lines that move from one CPU to another might become an
> >>>> issue. But I think that the scheme I suggested would minimize this overhead.
> >>> 
> >>> Well, it would have a lot more unconditional atomic ops. My scheme only
> >>> waits when there is actual concurrency.
> >> 
> >> Well, something has to give. I didn’t think that if the same core does the
> >> atomic op it would be too expensive.
> > 
> > They're still at least 20 cycles a pop, uncontended.
> > 
> >>> I _think_ something like the below ought to work, but its not even been
> >>> near a compiler. The only problem is the unconditional wakeup; we can
> >>> play games to avoid that if we want to continue with this.
> >>> 
> >>> Ideally we'd only do this when there's been actual overlap, but I've not
> >>> found a sensible way to detect that.
> >>> 
> >>> diff --git a/include/linux/mm_types.h b/include/linux/mm_types.h
> >>> index 4ef4bbe78a1d..b70e35792d29 100644
> >>> --- a/include/linux/mm_types.h
> >>> +++ b/include/linux/mm_types.h
> >>> @@ -590,7 +590,12 @@ static inline void dec_tlb_flush_pending(struct mm_struct *mm)
> >>> 	 *
> >>> 	 * Therefore we must rely on tlb_flush_*() to guarantee order.
> >>> 	 */
> >>> -	atomic_dec(&mm->tlb_flush_pending);
> >>> +	if (atomic_dec_and_test(&mm->tlb_flush_pending)) {
> >>> +		wake_up_var(&mm->tlb_flush_pending);
> >>> +	} else {
> >>> +		wait_event_var(&mm->tlb_flush_pending,
> >>> +			       !atomic_read_acquire(&mm->tlb_flush_pending));
> >>> +	}
> >>> }
> >> 
> >> It still seems very expensive to me, at least for certain workloads (e.g.,
> >> Apache with multithreaded MPM).
> > 
> > Is that Apache-MPM workload triggering this lots? Having a known
> > benchmark for this stuff is good for when someone has time to play with
> > things.
> 
> Setting Apache2 with mpm_worker causes every request to go through
> mmap-writev-munmap flow on every thread. I didn’t run this workload after
> the patches that downgrade the mmap_sem to read before the page-table
> zapping were introduced. I presume these patches would allow the page-table
> zapping to be done concurrently, and therefore would hit this flow.

Hmm, I don't think so: munmap() still has to take the semaphore for write
initially, so it will be serialised against other munmap() threads even
after they've downgraded afaict.

The initial bug report was about concurrent madvise() vs munmap().

Will