Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 21:35:13 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 21:34:54 -0400 Received: from femail7.sdc1.sfba.home.com ([24.0.95.87]:61871 "EHLO femail7.sdc1.sfba.home.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 21:34:31 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Rob Landley Reply-To: landley@trommello.org Organization: Boundaries Unlimited To: Vojtech Pavlik , Pavel Machek Subject: Re: Ethernet Error Correction Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 17:34:17 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] Cc: Matti Aarnio , Karel Kulhavy , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20010925223437.A21831@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz> <20011002114801.A19015@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz> <20011002115531.A7176@suse.cz> In-Reply-To: <20011002115531.A7176@suse.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01100417341701.02393@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tuesday 02 October 2001 05:55, Vojtech Pavlik wrote: > On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 11:48:01AM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote: > > Well, if you checked all the cables, you'd most likely find the device > capable of sending the bad CRC frames. Also, if you use a switch (not ha > hub or coax), it won't work at all. You can cause a lot of switches to degrate to HUB mode by overloading their arp cache mac address table thingy. (Fun for packet sniffing when you've got a card that can change its mac address in software. Send packets originating from a few thousand different mac IDs and watch the switch throw up its hands and go "AAAAAH!". Sniffing the right init sequence for a pppoe connection with nonstandard authentication can be a bit difficult otherwise, with modern hardware... :) I haven't tried it on a very wide variety of manufacturer's switches, though. And I dunno how that relates to CRC behavior... Rob - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/