Received: by 2002:a25:4158:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id o85csp823755yba; Thu, 16 May 2019 09:25:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqykfW9yzMUnsZygcQ2UbsswropHO90Bfa0lDq+rP9x7939J3xvNiiEy9XOvDVJcx++5ewzd X-Received: by 2002:a63:4f07:: with SMTP id d7mr1781507pgb.77.1558023917917; Thu, 16 May 2019 09:25:17 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1558023917; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=iX0SbqsuAv5539qrD3ya9C7xUaWjTJVoOo62oInYyc/XVRyxu/KMRFwfXbg4eV7XZ5 ntmpyhuinHPlikRneshgz0z9VLlVUG0Fx8RLt4Wddf0aUpstdR67geGfk3k7kOffQDNf T9tz5kcX7yj3BfmnD5mJpgzqQbtU+LRyvTydBd2rGHq4x62lFn7ZDAeHzGnQRtus7SX+ mlf/jfgm8GI11Uz4PqfzyQhDu+1pDZ45apKlYIMHDK/l1+OcQl2AyZ/jXpbqBQVedcN/ DZeLLAX9SbT8pMxjIFCeSE5V9XEu7ZXphwQWKg7DY8xDLYYGUreI3SODaAAnADBRS3VI q09A== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:user-agent:in-reply-to :content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id:subject:cc :to:from:date; bh=3HQ8wwolraipsXiT5iluk5YWzwzD0btb2bJJxthO2TQ=; b=kYuSF9cjj3VvIEJpoXFFDis9h6Vxb87u80gaXuoC4w/XiRAVnW39DOmKON2Y122UYz u0lIlTMO8Uwh9BcvR4dE/kzEf4Tv16i+QSiUC+atgZZXrh8xHiHd9GI3W8G28Yg6Htjq 5AKgq3P5l9yQE9IfJHxyoU5o1f74BiToOY2jd9N7trZAFlqdMOueDFa4eN5Q7YfHSp1Q QrkIPzALCrdcBdksCyduF+b9QnpiRdz0CMUKKdmWlDSpgyt6Ky+CfyzsDDfe0j6GlyN3 Kx0RoiH1p6N7JPE6M2iZEf5Vp/q+wVP4wLGWFLpO4J875asp8SWB22bw5PgcU45fl3tv w0dA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 187si6153629pfe.116.2019.05.16.09.25.02; Thu, 16 May 2019 09:25:17 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726966AbfEPQXE (ORCPT + 99 others); Thu, 16 May 2019 12:23:04 -0400 Received: from zeniv.linux.org.uk ([195.92.253.2]:58972 "EHLO ZenIV.linux.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726494AbfEPQXD (ORCPT ); Thu, 16 May 2019 12:23:03 -0400 Received: from viro by ZenIV.linux.org.uk with local (Exim 4.92 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1hRJ9n-0003Q5-Hd; Thu, 16 May 2019 16:22:59 +0000 Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 17:22:59 +0100 From: Al Viro To: David Howells Cc: torvalds@linux-foundation.org, Christian Brauner , Arnd Bergmann , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] uapi, vfs: Change the mount API UAPI [ver #2] Message-ID: <20190516162259.GB17978@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> References: <155800752418.4037.9567789434648701032.stgit@warthog.procyon.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <155800752418.4037.9567789434648701032.stgit@warthog.procyon.org.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.11.3 (2019-02-01) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 12:52:04PM +0100, David Howells wrote: > > Hi Linus, Al, > > Here are some patches that make changes to the mount API UAPI and two of > them really need applying, before -rc1 - if they're going to be applied at > all. I'm fine with 2--4, but I'm not convinced that cloexec-by-default crusade makes any sense. Could somebody give coherent arguments in favour of abandoning the existing conventions?